educar para

English translation: teach yourself / you learn /

15:31 Jul 9, 2007
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
Portuguese term or phrase: educar para
"Referimo-nos às instituições de saúde onde se educa para a saúde e / ou reabilitação da doença"
Daisymiller
Local time: 05:07
English translation:teach yourself / you learn /
Explanation:
think it might be this

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-09 17:12:30 GMT)
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unless you are literally on it, like on a bus

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-09 19:34:54 GMT)
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sorry still learning where things go in see this is where I put notes,

I can't agree with you on this, learn on just doesn't work in the sentence, it needs to be learn about.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-09 19:54:55 GMT)
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ON

Use 'on' with surfaces:

* on the ceiling / on the wall / on the floor
* on the table

Use 'on' with small islands:

* I stayed on Maui.

Use 'on' with directions:

* on the left
* on the right
* straight on
http://esl.about.com/library/grammar/blgr_prep1.htm
Selected response from:

Michael and Raimunda Poe
Brazil
Local time: 01:07
Grading comment
I've decided to choose this answer because it's closer to what I've decided to use:
"where it's possible to learn about health..."
Many thanks!
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1where one is educated/oriented/guided about health/healthcare
Susy Ordaz
4where you learn on health...
Susana Silva
4where you get training for
Rafa Lombardino
3teach yourself / you learn /
Michael and Raimunda Poe


  

Answers


1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
where you learn on health...


Explanation:
A expressão "learn on" sugere um maior aprofundamento sobre os conteúdos do que a expressão "learn about". A primeira refere-se a um estudo mais exaustivo (como o tipo de ensino ministrado em instituições, universidades, hospitais...) do que a segunda (de carácter mais geral).

Susana Silva
Portugal
Local time: 05:07
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cristina estanislau
22 mins

disagree  Michael and Raimunda Poe: never heard the expression learn on, you can learn about something you can't learn on not in English anyhow, let me preface this with I am not looking to pick a fight, sorry just can't agree with you on this, it is very awkward to say learn on
34 mins
  -> "learn on something" é uma expressão válida para o tal conhecimento aprofundado que se faz acerca de um determinado assunto.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
where you get training for


Explanation:
A less literal option:

"We are referring to health institutions where you get training for health practices and/or disease rehabilitation."

As far as I can see, the sentence is not clear as to whether the person will get training to help others or to improve his/her own condition... Maybe more context would be helpful for us to get a better idea of the whole picture.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-09 16:50:08 GMT)
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NOTE TO ASKER:

Hi, Daisy!

I've just read your note and I believe that in such case it would be easier to somehow say that the facilities offer training programs, 'cause it keeps the broad sense of the sentence. It could be a classroom setting with a teacher or an online course. It also give you the idea that it can be either a program for healthcare providers or for people that went through it themselves. Being a Brazilian PT native speaker, I get the "educar pra" meaning, which I personally find to be a marketing/advertising kind of slogan, but it is not a very objective expression when we have to translate it.

Well, good luck! :)

Rafa Lombardino
United States
Local time: 21:07
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: There's no other context available... this is all I have. This is the abstract of a paper on education and health institutions. In Portuguese it is common to say "educar para a cidadania/saúde/etc", meaning that the focus of education should be on citizenship/health, respectively.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  veratek: I also thought it wasn't clear.
13 mins

neutral  Michael and Raimunda Poe: me too
18 mins
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
where one is educated/oriented/guided about health/healthcare


Explanation:
where one is educated/oriented/guided about health/healthcare

Susy Ordaz
Local time: 05:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 14
Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks for your suggestions, which were also great!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Denise Miranda
1 hr
  -> Many thanks Denise.
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
teach yourself / you learn /


Explanation:
think it might be this

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-09 17:12:30 GMT)
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unless you are literally on it, like on a bus

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-09 19:34:54 GMT)
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sorry still learning where things go in see this is where I put notes,

I can't agree with you on this, learn on just doesn't work in the sentence, it needs to be learn about.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-09 19:54:55 GMT)
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ON

Use 'on' with surfaces:

* on the ceiling / on the wall / on the floor
* on the table

Use 'on' with small islands:

* I stayed on Maui.

Use 'on' with directions:

* on the left
* on the right
* straight on
http://esl.about.com/library/grammar/blgr_prep1.htm

Michael and Raimunda Poe
Brazil
Local time: 01:07
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
I've decided to choose this answer because it's closer to what I've decided to use:
"where it's possible to learn about health..."
Many thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  veratek: "teach yourself" - don't think so. "you learn" about health/healthy practices... OK
5 mins
  -> yeah I am now leaning more toward the you learn not teach yourself
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