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coup de gîte

English translation: to heel

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French term or phrase:coup de gîte
English translation:to heel
Entered by: Janet Ross Snyder

02:18 Jan 8, 2007
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Transport / Transportation / Shipping
French term or phrase: coup de gîte
Le commandant a vu venir du nord des trains de houle.
Le roulis était d'environ 7 à 8°, et le tangage était régulier, la mer venant de l'avant bâbord.
Le navire a pris un COUP DE GÎTE très important, environ 30°, puis 2 autres coups de roulis.
Janet Ross Snyder
Canada
Local time: 13:15
to heel
Explanation:
I would say that a ship LISTS through the action of something on board (cargo, passengers...) and HEELS due to an outside force (sea, wind...) however the OED doesn't make this distinction.

'The ship heeled over, to about 30 degrees, and then rolled a couple more times.'

Indeed, COUP DE ROULIS is A ROLL

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:43:30 GMT)
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As the ship heels over, the centre of gravity generally remains fixed with respect to ... metacentric heights for any combination of pitch and roll motion, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacentric_height

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:44:51 GMT)
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Furling the square sails of a tall ship is hard labour needing many hands, ... dishes while the boat, at times, is heeled over as much as 30 degrees. ...
www.richarddonkin.com/tall_ships_race.shtml

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:49:32 GMT)
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I verified 'coup de roulis/a roll' and 'coup de gîte/to list or to heel' in the 'Dictionnaire des termes de marine, anglais - français par Jules Douady, 1910'

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:53:15 GMT)
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Indeed, looking on the web, LISTED seems to be either more permanent or due to ship board causes:

a computer glitch on the Carnival Legend last July caused the ship to list 14 degrees to the side...
www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/12009

All crew were off the ship at 0430hrs, 12 hours 19 minutes after the hit, at which time the list had reached 35 degrees. HMS Ark Royal capsized and sank at ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)

Whether it was a 38 degree list I'm not sure - I've heard thirty as well. These huge ships are so top-heavy that stability does become a problem when the ...
digg.com/world_news/Cruise_Ship_Was_5_Degrees_From_Flipping
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Graham macLachlan
Local time: 18:15
Grading comment
Thank you. I think this describes accuately what the ship did.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4to heel
Graham macLachlan
3the ship took a list...
Unbounded Arts


  

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34 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
the ship took a list...


Explanation:
prendre de la gîte is to list or heel over ( to lean over to one side; temporary condition when the boat turns about her longitudinal axis in response to a heeling force, usually the wind )

Unbounded Arts
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:15
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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Asker: Thank you for your assistance.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  kfpdavis: I would say, rather,"the ship listed", as being the phrase commonly used; however "to list" would mean to remain at an angle, whereas here, it seems, the ship rolled back and forth several times
3 hrs
neutral  Graham macLachlan: 'the ship took a list' is perfect English, but I would use 'heel over' for the reasons laid out below
5 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
to heel


Explanation:
I would say that a ship LISTS through the action of something on board (cargo, passengers...) and HEELS due to an outside force (sea, wind...) however the OED doesn't make this distinction.

'The ship heeled over, to about 30 degrees, and then rolled a couple more times.'

Indeed, COUP DE ROULIS is A ROLL

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:43:30 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

As the ship heels over, the centre of gravity generally remains fixed with respect to ... metacentric heights for any combination of pitch and roll motion, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacentric_height

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:44:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Furling the square sails of a tall ship is hard labour needing many hands, ... dishes while the boat, at times, is heeled over as much as 30 degrees. ...
www.richarddonkin.com/tall_ships_race.shtml

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:49:32 GMT)
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I verified 'coup de roulis/a roll' and 'coup de gîte/to list or to heel' in the 'Dictionnaire des termes de marine, anglais - français par Jules Douady, 1910'

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-01-08 07:53:15 GMT)
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Indeed, looking on the web, LISTED seems to be either more permanent or due to ship board causes:

a computer glitch on the Carnival Legend last July caused the ship to list 14 degrees to the side...
www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/12009

All crew were off the ship at 0430hrs, 12 hours 19 minutes after the hit, at which time the list had reached 35 degrees. HMS Ark Royal capsized and sank at ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)

Whether it was a 38 degree list I'm not sure - I've heard thirty as well. These huge ships are so top-heavy that stability does become a problem when the ...
digg.com/world_news/Cruise_Ship_Was_5_Degrees_From_Flipping


Graham macLachlan
Local time: 18:15
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Thank you. I think this describes accuately what the ship did.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Odette Grille (X)
1 hr
agree  blavatsky
2 hrs
agree  Vicky Papaprodromou
4 hrs
agree  Unbounded Arts
5 hrs
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