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compétence [here]

English translation: if the revelant work can be done equally well by an employee

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French term or phrase:si le travail qui en découle équivaut à la compétence d'un salarié
English translation:if the revelant work can be done equally well by an employee
Entered by: Gayle Wallimann

18:54 Dec 8, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Human Resources / collective agreement
French term or phrase: compétence [here]
"Aucune tâche permanente ou partielle ne peut être confiée en sous traitance si le travail qui en découle équivaut à la ***compétence*** d’un salarié."

TIA
Wyley Powell
Canada
Local time: 11:56
if the revelant work can as well be done by an employee
Explanation:
pour traduire: "si le travail qui en découle équivaut à ***la compétence*** d'un salarié"
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gabuss
Local time: 15:56
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Belated thanks to all.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3if the revelant work can as well be done by an employee
gabuss
3 +3skills
French2English
5abilities
Nathalie Bendavid
4 +1within the capabilities of
B D Finch
3 +1job responsibilities
Steven Capsuto
4skills and abilities
Andrew Bruch
4job description
234561
3if an employee is competent to carry out the task (effectively/in question)
suezen


  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
abilities


Explanation:
Because if a salaried individual can do the work then it shouldn't be sub-contracted out

Nathalie Bendavid
Canada
Local time: 11:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in EnglishEnglish
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
job responsibilities


Explanation:
In other words, if it's equivalent to what would normall be a full-time staff job.

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Note added at 14 mins (2006-12-08 19:08:47 GMT)
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For instance, if you are asked to work on a project that is outside your job description, you might say "Ce n'est pas de ma compétence."

Steven Capsuto
United States
Local time: 11:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  HelenG: Yep, that's how I see it...very modest on your 3 score! Could also use remit.
54 mins
  -> Thanks. Actually, in American English, remit is used only as a verb. I only know the noun usage from reading histories of UK radio and TV, which always refer to Channel 4's original "remit."
neutral  French2English: I'm not sure whether it's responsibilities so much as skills here that is meant...isn't it a question of what the staff CAN do rather than what they are MEANT to do?
16 hrs
neutral  Julie Barber: I'd go for skills / ability though, not responsability as it's not the same thing
17 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
skills


Explanation:
I prefer to use the term 'skill' to translate 'competence' and here I would put it in the plural. I don't disagree with 'abilities', which can mean almost the same thing, but I would make the distinction that a person might have an 'ability', but not an actual 'skill' - the latter suggesting that they have received the necessary training.

French2English
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MurielP (X): I would have used "skills" as well, in this context!
10 hrs
agree  Julie Barber
13 hrs
agree  Patrice
1 day 27 mins
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
if the revelant work can as well be done by an employee


Explanation:
pour traduire: "si le travail qui en découle équivaut à ***la compétence*** d'un salarié"

gabuss
Local time: 15:56
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Belated thanks to all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  French2English: Although the word order is not good English: I would change it to: '...can be done equally well by an employee'
4 hrs
agree  Julie Barber
5 hrs
agree  Ian Davies: agree: '...can be done equally well by an employee'
6 hrs
  -> I thank you all three for your support
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
if an employee is competent to carry out the task (effectively/in question)


Explanation:
then the work cannot be outsourced ...
alternative rendering
This work must be carried out by someone trained and competent to carry out the ...
estatesoffice.man.ac.uk/Asbestos/Default.asp - 49k
to determine whether their employees are competent to carry out the assigned task. If an employee is not, ...
www.australiantraining.com.au/task_prodcedure_development.h... - 8k
competent, in the general sense, to. carry out the task effectively. (See ... Q1 Does it matter if the employee in. post as at 1 January 1998 gained ...
www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/additional/IMRO_hbk_supp.pdf

suezen
Local time: 17:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 56
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22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
within the capabilities of


Explanation:
A Google search yielded hundreds of examples ...

"Employees indicate that they are able to cope with the demands of their jobs; and ... Jobs are designed to be within the capabilities of employees; and ..."
http://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/standards/standards.htm

"The return to work program provides opportunities for any employee who sustains a ... duties and tasks that are within the capabilities of the employee, ..."
www.unt.edu/policy/UNT_Policy/volume1/1_3_21.html

"The organisation provides employees with adequate and achievable demands in relation to the ... Jobs are designed to be within the capabilities of employees ..."
uk.ihs.com/news/newsletters/ohsis/ohsis-nov04-common-sense-stress-management.htm


    Reference: http://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/standards/standards.htm
    Reference: http://www.unt.edu/policy/UNT_Policy/volume1/1_3_21.html
B D Finch
France
Local time: 17:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 83

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  rkillings: Yep, I like this word here.
1 day 12 hrs
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2 days 22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
skills and abilities


Explanation:
It's what I would expect to see here or on a CV

Andrew Bruch
Local time: 11:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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3 days 8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
job description


Explanation:
This is obviously related to a unionized organization. The issue is therefore not the real capability of an individual employee, but rather the "job description" that defines the work that "belongs" to the trade in question.

234561
Local time: 11:56
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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