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Explanation:
Mark, I'm just wondering if this second occurrence of 'bulles' mightn't in fact be referring to a different type of 'bubbles'?
Could it be that they are saying that "only bubbles being given off could indicate the location of [defects] deper inside the hull?
Just a thought, but could be a path to explore...
| Tony M
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28 mins confidence:   peer agreement (net): +1 More on Dusty's comment.
Explanation:
Would really have to be "dégagement DE bulles", though, not "des".
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On second thoughts, maybe not, though. It seems a big risk to take, to sit back and wait for something to happen, when surely a diver could be sent down to have a look at the "bulles/cloques". Then again, why "Seul le dégagement des bulles pourra indiquer la situation des cloques dans la profondeur de la coque" if, assuming "dégagement" means "breaking open, flattening", etc., they could equally well do the same thing above the water line, and assume the situation is the same at depth.
What sort of ship, what sort of hull? Are these "cloques" in the paint on the steel, in fibreglass, etc., or actual bumps in the steel of the hull? When they say "dégazage", are they talking about emptying the tanks of an oil tanker, or gas release from some chemical reaction (fibreglass, polyesters, what have you)? (osmosis I don't understand).
| Bourth (X)
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53 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 bulles = bubbles; cloque = blister
Explanation:
This excerpt sounds like its from a survey. We have a sailboat so I'm familiar with checking the hull for blistering.
It sounds like he's saying the hull has visible "bubbles" (bulles), but he wants to distinguish that from the more serious "blisters" (cloques) because he couldn't complete the assessment. He probably poked at the bubble to see if it was just in the paint, but since he couldn't easily puncture it he suspects blistering. A surveyor won't risk damaging the hull, but he's saying the bubbles should be pierced in order to confirm the problem. If the buyer is dealing with actual blisters in the hull, meaning that water is reacting with materials in the laminate, possibly weakening hull integrity.
I hope this is helpful...I looked at our boat maintenance manual when I was thinking about this...
| Laura Tridico
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55 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1 only the removal of the superficial/paint blisters will tell us the extent of the damage to the hull
Explanation:
I'm not very up on polysester hulls, however it seems to me that there are blisters in the paint work (bulles) which are caused by some reaction which is making blisters in the hull itself (cloques), these hulls are made from layers of glass fibre which can separate, turning into "puff pastry"!
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I think "bulle" and "cloque" would be rendered as "blister" in English
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Bottom Blistering
Osmosis blistering, if left to its own devices, will sooner or later destroy the integrity of your boat's hull. Many times when a fiberglass boat is hauled, ...
powerboat.about.com/od/fiberglass/a/bottom_blisters.htm
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A typical hull that has "...got osmosis". A number of larger blisters are visible, ... after a few years, blisters in the interface between the epoxy/paint ...
www.yachtsnet.co.uk/osmosis.htm
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And paint blisters are often misinterpreted as barrier coat blisters. Since there was only one type and coating of bottom paint on the hull, this can't be ...
www.yachtsurvey.com/BlisterRepairFail.htm
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as you can see, in English "blisters is blisters"!
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In simple terms, I think the shipyard guys are telling the owner, "Sorry Guv, I can't tell you what the problem is without scraping off the paint"
| Graham macLachlan
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14 hrs confidence: The state of the blisters can only be determined by opening up the bubbles
Explanation:
I would say that the bubbles are gas bubbles formed by chemical reaction under the blister.
http://www.boatus.com/goodoldboat/badpox.htm
http://www.oceanmarineservices.com/Osmotic Blistering.htm
ltridico seems to have got the general idea. The problem in this sentence though is the word 'dégagement'.
I have chosen to use "open up" as in this sentence from the above site.
"The only way to fully assess the damage that may have been caused by blisters is to open them up and inspect the surrounding laminate looking for the signs of delamination and wicking."
| Miranda Joubioux (X)
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