vela de entre palos

English translation: (mizzen) staysail

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Spanish term or phrase:vela de entre palos
English translation:(mizzen) staysail
Entered by: William Pairman

19:24 Jul 24, 2006
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Ships, Sailing, Maritime / sails
Spanish term or phrase: vela de entre palos
La nave dispone de una superficie de 150 metros cuadrados, repartidos entre un foque o génova, una vela de entre palos y una mayor marconi

so we have a jib, a marconi rigging sail, what's the third? i though "mid mast" or something but cant find any refs
William Pairman
Spain
Local time: 17:11
(mizzen) staysail
Explanation:
It depends if the boat is a ketch/yawl or a schooner. On a ketch the main mast is higher than the aft mast. That (aft) mast is called mizzen, hence mizzen staysail.
BUT if it's a achooner, the aft mast being higher than the mast towards the bow, it may be a sail that is hoisted higher and I have to think about the name. Bear with me. Will add that.
BTW
http://www.answers.com/topic/bermuda-rig
Marconi just means the mainsail is a triangular sail to the top of the mast, do not use rig because that would indicate the boat has only one mast, and there are two here ;)

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:18:46 GMT)
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I just see in your question that the plot thickens: there seems to be only one mast. Who's written the original text??? It seems to be a back translation: the original text used staysail, the Spanish translation became entrepalos (mizzen staysail, not the same).
That's also why the old-fashioned 'marconi' came into view.

I bet they refer to the 'trinqueta' (in English: staysail) which is a sail behind the jib, on an inner forestay. This is a part of a 'cutter' (ES: cúter) rig.
http://marina42.net/cgi-bin/p/m42p-custom.cgi?d=passage-yach...

http://www.syadele.com/spec_sailing.htm
Photo of "Adele" with a mizzen staysail

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:22:36 GMT)
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OK, of course a staysail schooner- it's still a staysail (pffff)


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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:24:23 GMT)
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http://www.pelagicbirds.com/
On the photo you can see a staysail schooner

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-07-24 21:28:50 GMT)
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http://www.1cyc.com/sy/lelanta/
Another staysail schooner. For classic boats, marconi does make sense.
As you see there is another sail above the staysail, but we'll forget about that one for the moment ;)
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Anjo Sterringa
Netherlands
Local time: 17:11
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That really is quite stunning help - many many thanks :o)
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(mizzen) staysail


Explanation:
It depends if the boat is a ketch/yawl or a schooner. On a ketch the main mast is higher than the aft mast. That (aft) mast is called mizzen, hence mizzen staysail.
BUT if it's a achooner, the aft mast being higher than the mast towards the bow, it may be a sail that is hoisted higher and I have to think about the name. Bear with me. Will add that.
BTW
http://www.answers.com/topic/bermuda-rig
Marconi just means the mainsail is a triangular sail to the top of the mast, do not use rig because that would indicate the boat has only one mast, and there are two here ;)

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:18:46 GMT)
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I just see in your question that the plot thickens: there seems to be only one mast. Who's written the original text??? It seems to be a back translation: the original text used staysail, the Spanish translation became entrepalos (mizzen staysail, not the same).
That's also why the old-fashioned 'marconi' came into view.

I bet they refer to the 'trinqueta' (in English: staysail) which is a sail behind the jib, on an inner forestay. This is a part of a 'cutter' (ES: cúter) rig.
http://marina42.net/cgi-bin/p/m42p-custom.cgi?d=passage-yach...

http://www.syadele.com/spec_sailing.htm
Photo of "Adele" with a mizzen staysail

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:22:36 GMT)
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OK, of course a staysail schooner- it's still a staysail (pffff)


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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-24 21:24:23 GMT)
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http://www.pelagicbirds.com/
On the photo you can see a staysail schooner

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-07-24 21:28:50 GMT)
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http://www.1cyc.com/sy/lelanta/
Another staysail schooner. For classic boats, marconi does make sense.
As you see there is another sail above the staysail, but we'll forget about that one for the moment ;)

Anjo Sterringa
Netherlands
Local time: 17:11
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That really is quite stunning help - many many thanks :o)
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