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retenu (here)

English translation: accepted

11:33 Jun 22, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel
French term or phrase: retenu (here)
Le village a ete **retenu** comme site touristique majeure de la region.

Is this just "listed" or "classed" in a similar way to a village being chosen as "one of the most beautiful villages of France"?
Gruffalo
Local time: 17:26
English translation:accepted
Explanation:
I think it could fit here.

...on n'a pas trop de contexte pour choisir entre toutes les bonnes propositions.
Selected response from:

cocotier
Local time: 18:26
Grading comment
All your comments were really helpful, and gave me lots of food for thought. I decided on "accepted", as I think it covers both Ingeborg's "chosen" and Mark's "has become" neatly, without being as specific as some of the other answers, given the lack of context.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +6chosen as one of the most beautiful villages
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
5reconnu
gabuss
4adopted
Tony M
4designated
Bailatjones
3 +1has become/is
Mark Nathan
4accepted
cocotier
4...identified as one of the major tourist attractions of the region
Cervin
3is (now) featured as/(now) features as
writeaway


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
retenu
adopted


Explanation:
I find 'to adopt' is often a very useful solution for 'retenir'

Tony M
France
Local time: 18:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 119

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tom Bishop: I agree that it's often a useful solution, but I'm less sure in this instance.
2 hrs
  -> I dunno, I think it has useful connotations that would work quite well in exactly this context. Like 'adopting something as team mascot', for example...
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
chosen as one of the most beautiful villages


Explanation:
you had the right idea. I gather from the little context that this is praised a s the most beautiful site....

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Note added at 31 mins (2006-06-22 12:04:45 GMT)
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like to correct: chosen as one of the most beautiful tourist sites of the region

Ingeborg Gowans (X)
Canada
Local time: 13:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: retenu comme site touristique majeure de la region
3 mins
  -> sorry I didn't read the rest: as one of the major tourist sites of the regionI should have said
agree  TinaA
14 mins
  -> thanks
agree  Jocelyne S: Or "selected" as Sylvie noted above.
23 mins
  -> thanks, yes, both would work here
agree  Sandra C.: yes, chosen, as simple as that; clear and concise
2 hrs
  -> merci Sandra
agree  Tom Bishop
3 hrs
  -> merci Tom
agree  Jeffrey Lewis
3 hrs
  -> merci Jeffrey
agree  df49f (X): chosen or selected - nothing else meant or intended
6 hrs
  -> merci
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34 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
designated


Explanation:
I think chosen and selected are both fine, 'designated' is just another option:

some tourism related examples:
Pont de Quebec: This bridge was designated as an international historical monument by the Canadian Society...
Nara: an old city, designated by World Heritage as a historical asset

Bailatjones
Switzerland
Local time: 18:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mark Nathan: this is my point - you can designate something a national monument but you cannot designate it a major tourist attraction.
31 mins
  -> I do take your point, unless the city was 'chosen' by a tourism board/local govt as a target for marketing materials
agree  Tom Bishop: Despite what Mark says, people and more particularly organisations designate things as anything they like. ;-)
1 hr
  -> Thanks Tom, I think Mark has a point however.
disagree  Sandra C.: I agree with Mark here.
2 hrs
  -> Thank you Sandra, I agree he has raised a valid point.
neutral  Tony M: I am rather inclined to agree with Mark and Sandra on this one; "designated for development as..." perhaps, but...
2 hrs
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
has become/is


Explanation:
Before anyone jumps on me, I do realize that, in practice, retenu means in this context that the village is listed/presented as a major tourist attraction.
However, in tourism literature one usually presents a site on its own merits. To suggest that it was somehow chosen, selected (or even adopted - sorry Tony) by the tourist authorities, even is this is the case, strikes a slightly false note (assuming this text is a reccommendation of where to go, rather than an exposure of corruption in the tourism industry).
"The village has become/is one of the region's major tourist attractions."


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Note added at 43 mins (2006-06-22 12:16:29 GMT)
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Sorry, that's "even if " and "recommendation".

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Note added at 48 mins (2006-06-22 12:21:32 GMT)
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A village can of course win an award, or be selected for a category ("village of charm" etc) but that is not the same as being a major tourist attraction.

Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 18:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  PB Trans: Yes, that's the idea here.
13 mins
agree  roneill: This sounds most natural in English
1 hr
disagree  Tom Bishop: Idon't think we have enough context to be certain here, but tourist authorities etc. are perfectly capable of designating attractions; "a été retenu" certainly implies a deliberate action rather than some form of general consensus arising over time.
1 hr
  -> Surely it would be weird to say that the Eiffel tower has been designated a major tourist attraction.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
is (now) featured as/(now) features as


Explanation:
one more.

writeaway
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
accepted


Explanation:
I think it could fit here.

...on n'a pas trop de contexte pour choisir entre toutes les bonnes propositions.

cocotier
Local time: 18:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
All your comments were really helpful, and gave me lots of food for thought. I decided on "accepted", as I think it covers both Ingeborg's "chosen" and Mark's "has become" neatly, without being as specific as some of the other answers, given the lack of context.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
...identified as one of the major tourist attractions of the region


Explanation:
Just another idea to add to the many possibilities!

Cervin
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
reconnu


Explanation:
En fait, il s'agit dans ce contexte d'une reconnaissance de facto du village comme site touristique majeur de la région

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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-06-22 19:17:06 GMT)
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I already added a note to post as target term "recognized" instead of "reconnu" which is in French

gabuss
Local time: 16:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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