engloutissement

English translation: being swallowed up

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French term or phrase:	engloutissement
English translation:	being swallowed up
Entered by:	jambo

08:08 Jun 11, 2006

French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature

French term or phrase: engloutissement

This has to do with Greek and Egyptian mythology. The word means something along the lines of "gobbling up" but I can't get it to fit in the sentence.
"Donc ce serpent c'est l'archétype du monde de l'engloutissement mais c'est aussi la renaissance.

jambo KudoZ activity Questions: 14 (none open) Answers: 0
Local time: 08:47

archetype of the world being swallowed up

Explanation:
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sinking/diseappearing in abysmal/abyssal mouth

Selected response from:

Najib Aloui
Local time: 07:47

Grading comment

Thank you very much ganemo this is the answer that suited me best.Thanks also to allthe other people for your help.
Jambo
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +2

a world that devours

Gabriel Csaba

3 +2

consumption

Michele Fauble

3 +1

Smothered / Lost / Engulfed / Obliterated

zaphod

3 +1

archetype of the world being swallowed up

Najib Aloui

swallowing its tail

Jeffrey Lewis

depths, underworld

NancyLynn

being swallowed up

Ben Gaia

voracity / engulfing

Jennifer Gal

Engulfment

Julie Barber

Answers

26 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Smothered / Lost / Engulfed / Obliterated

Explanation:
Synonym for Hell / Netherworld / Underworld

"L'Histoire d'Ys, la cite engloutti"

zaphod
Local time: 08:47
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 10

22 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

archetype of the world being swallowed up

Najib Aloui
Local time: 07:47
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you very much ganemo this is the answer that suited me best.Thanks also to allthe other people for your help.
Jambo

35 mins confidence:

voracity / engulfing

Explanation:
These are just a couple more suggestions for you. Voracity, figuratively, might work - if he's consuming endlessly, can't be satisfied. Engulf would more capture the meaning of his swallowing up massive amounts in one fell swoop.

Or neither...

Good luck, with your good question. It looks like people had fun with it.

Jen Gal

Jennifer Gal
Hungary
Native speaker of: English

47 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

monde de l'engloutissement a world that devours

Explanation:
If this is the Egyptian god Apep/Apophis we're talking about, it was the embodiment of absolute evil and darkness in the form of a giant water-snake, waiting each night to swallow Ra's sun-ship when it was crossing the underworld. I would therefore choose to rephrase the whole sentence.

Example sentence(s):

This serpent is thus the archetype of a world that devours, but also gives new birth.

Reference: http://touregypt.net/featurestories/apep.htm
Reference: http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/apep.h...

Gabriel Csaba
Argentina
Local time: 03:47
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

Hungarian

56 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

consumption

Explanation:
'consumption and rebirth'

or 'annihilation and rebirth' if the context does not require you to keep the ingesting image.

Michele Fauble
United States
Local time: 23:47
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 11

1 hr confidence:

swallowing its tail

Explanation:
"The serpent swallowing its tail is the symbol (or archetype) of the world in which things disappear and are forgotten; but it is also a symbol of return and completing a circle, and that is the renaissance (the rediscovery of ancient learning stimulating new discoveries)."

I don't mean to make your sentence longer. The parts in ( ) are just to be understood.

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I like all the answers. I wish we had more stuff like this to work on! Hi, all, I'm off to church after staying up all night - it'll be like a 'cathedrale engloutie' for me.

Jeffrey Lewis
United States
Local time: 01:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

5 hrs confidence:

depths, underworld

Explanation:
the serpent is the archetype of the depths as well as of rebirth (or renaissance)
I think it refers to Hades

NancyLynn
Canada
Local time: 02:47
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

8 hrs confidence:

Engulfment

Explanation:
engulfment and rebirth

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a goog snakey link, that talks about rebirth & renewal as the snake sheds + renews his own skin
http://www.reptileallsorts.com/snake-legends.htm

Also ouroboros, uroborus. The symbol, usually in the form of a circle, of a snake (or dragon) eating its tail.

The Ouroboros is a symbol of renewal, infinity, and the Eternal Return (as in Neitzsche's philosophy and Poincaré's recurrence theorem for systems with finite and bounded phase space

One is eternal return, everything being circular, everything recurring and also of a snake eating its tail, of it devouring itself, which is a more negative context
http://www.millenniumdesktop.co.uk/html/mduk2_ouroboros.htm

whilst the site above talks about the snake devouring itself, there is a concept of 'eternal return' - death & rebirth

Julie Barber
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:47
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28

19 hrs confidence:

being swallowed up

Explanation:
fits the sentence

Ben Gaia
New Zealand
Local time: 18:47
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

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