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las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos

English translation: the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property

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Spanish term or phrase:las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
English translation:the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property
Entered by: MJ Barber

19:44 Jan 19, 2006
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
History / ecclesiastical history
Spanish term or phrase: las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
Forzado el abandono tras las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos del pasado siglo, los edificios sufrieron un serio proceso de degradación, a pesar del cuidadoso respeto con que procuraron evitarlo los devotos vecinos.

basically, the monks left because they had no money, and the place was starting to fall down. I need a bit more elegant phrasing ...
MJ Barber
Spain
Local time: 12:35
the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property
Explanation:
I've run into this before. Here's a ref. for you:

As the years passed, the liberal campaign against the Catholic faith
in Spain intensified. Beginning in 1835 massive ***disentailment of
ecclesiastical properties and lands*** took place. Once again carried out in the name of efficiency and utilitarianism, this seizure of income-producing property of the Church ultimately forced the Spanish clergy and other religious to economic dependency upon the state.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HUMANITY/FR90402.TXT

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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-19 19:54:39 GMT)
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Here's a text about Mexico, but it's the same deal:

Mexico after 1857 confiscated Church property (disentailment or desamortizacion)....
http://latino.si.edu/researchandmuseums/presentations/bhati_...
Selected response from:

tazdog (X)
Spain
Local time: 12:35
Grading comment
I guess desentailment and disendowment would both be fine. I found references to "Mendizabal's disentailment", which was also mentioned in my text, so I will go with this one.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +6the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property
tazdog (X)
5the alienation of ecclesistical property
Barbara Cochran, MFA
4the seizure and sale of church property
translatol
3disendowment (of the Church)
Ana Brassara
3the sale of church property
Rosalbendea


Discussion entries: 3





  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +6
las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
the disentailment of church/ecclesiastical property


Explanation:
I've run into this before. Here's a ref. for you:

As the years passed, the liberal campaign against the Catholic faith
in Spain intensified. Beginning in 1835 massive ***disentailment of
ecclesiastical properties and lands*** took place. Once again carried out in the name of efficiency and utilitarianism, this seizure of income-producing property of the Church ultimately forced the Spanish clergy and other religious to economic dependency upon the state.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HUMANITY/FR90402.TXT

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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-19 19:54:39 GMT)
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Here's a text about Mexico, but it's the same deal:

Mexico after 1857 confiscated Church property (disentailment or desamortizacion)....
http://latino.si.edu/researchandmuseums/presentations/bhati_...

tazdog (X)
Spain
Local time: 12:35
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 56
Grading comment
I guess desentailment and disendowment would both be fine. I found references to "Mendizabal's disentailment", which was also mentioned in my text, so I will go with this one.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Chelin
2 mins
agree  Juan Jacob: Supongo que se dirá así en inglés.
13 mins
agree  Margarita Gonzalez: Precisamente: disentailment of ecclesiastical property.
45 mins
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: Very good!
1 hr
  -> thanks, everyone!
agree  EirTranslations
19 hrs
agree  Marcelo González
1 day 7 hrs
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
disendowment (of the Church)


Explanation:
cat2 - [ Traduzca esta página ]
A Glossary of Medieval Welsh Law. Timmothy Lewis. Manchester. ... Disestablishment &
Disendowment of the Church of England In Wales. A Handbook. 1912, £7.00 ...
www.siopymorfa.com/cat2.htm - 60k - En caché - Páginas similares

Literary Encyclopedia: The Lollard Knights - [ Traduzca esta página ]
Glossary · Stylebook · University English ... the miracle of the Eucharist,
translated the Bible into English, and advocated for clerical disendowment. ...
www.litencyc.com/php/stopics.php?rec=true&UID=1529 - 36k - En caché - Páginas similares

Encyclopædia Britannica's Guide to Shakespeare - [ Traduzca esta página ]
The achievements of Gladstone's first administration were several: the disestablishment
and partial disendowment of the Irish church, accomplished in 1869 ...
www.britannica.com/shakespeare/article-44935 -


Ana Brassara
Local time: 07:35
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
the sale of church property


Explanation:
Or "the sale of church land and property".

Suerte!

Rosalbendea
Local time: 12:35
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
the seizure and sale of church property


Explanation:
Depends on your readership. This is a more understandable translation for people who aren't experts in Spanish history and a more concrete description of what actually happened.

translatol
Local time: 11:35
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: good suggestion too, but I don't believe in talking down to my readership.

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1 day 9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
las desamortizaciones de bienes eclesiásticos
the alienation of ecclesistical property


Explanation:
I saw it referred to in this way in Larousse's Spanish/English Unabridged Dictionary.

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2006-01-21 05:25:43 GMT)
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Pardonez-moi! I meant "ecclesiastical."

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 06:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
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