point dur

English translation: "resistance in the controls"

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French term or phrase:point dur
English translation:"resistance in the controls"
Entered by: RHELLER

06:28 Dec 15, 2005
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Electronics / Elect Eng / microcontroller commands
French term or phrase: point dur
this is very specific language

Les régulateurs permettent d’alimenter sans encombre un récepteur et plusieurs servos sous une dizaine de volts (attention à ne pas avoir de point dur dans les commandes, car la consommation dans ce cas peut rapidement entraîner une surchauffe des régulateurs suivie d’une mise en veille...).
thanks in advance
RHELLER
United States
Local time: 04:39
stiff OR sticky spot OR point
Explanation:
Rita, it's nothing to do with software!

It simply means that your servo levers (etc.) must be free to move smoothly, without any points where they bind or stick. These kind of systems use as litle power as possible, and if you 'stall' the servo motor by something that is too stiff, it will draw more current, hence waste power and/or cause overheating by the excess current drawn.

Trust Dusty, I know what I'm talking about! :-)

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Note added at 3 hrs 10 mins (2005-12-15 09:39:16 GMT)
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Allan, you know I respect you far too much to be picky, but my peer comment was just to point out that 'hard point' is such a general term, it's easy to find it in all sorts of refs. that apparently associate it with a topic, where in fact there is little or no actual connection.

Your 1st ref. is referring to hardened tips on test probes (nothing to do with servos)

2nd and 3rd refs. appear to be referring to reinforced moutning points in modelling (again, not a lot to do with the actual servo action itself, or electronics)

and the 4th Wikipedia ref., comprehensive though it is, really is talking about a computer hardware kind of situation (which, despite Rita's instinct, this is NOT), and again, nothing to do with friction in servos.

See what I mean? :-)

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Note added at 7 hrs 22 mins (2005-12-15 13:50:59 GMT)
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CB has found the term from the gloss; although MM's suggestion of 'hard spot' was accepted by that Asker, I note that other answerers also suggested something around 'sticking', and I particularly like Parrot's suggestion of 'resistance', even though you would have to 'massage' this a bit to fit it in your sentence; maybe "...take care that there is no resistance in the controls..." or "...the controls offer no points of resistance..."

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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs 19 mins (2005-12-16 08:47:38 GMT) Post-grading
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Another word that could be useful is 'bind' -- "...make sure controls do not bind at any point..."

Although your servo syystem overall may of course involve software, Rita, it is perfectly clear from the context given (power supply / regulators / overheating...) that here they are purely and simply talking about the electro/mechanical interface of the servo, and sticky points and overheating have nothing directly to do with the software at all...
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Tony M
France
Local time: 12:39
Grading comment
Thanks, Dusty! In the end I used: be careful that there is no resistance in the controls because consumption can rapidly bring about overheating of the regulators - general enough to skip over the precise term because I am still not convinced of any of the above. Yes, software is involved here - I have the website.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3stiff OR sticky spot OR point
Tony M
3 +2friction point
Francis MARC
4 +1hard point / spot
Allan Jeffs


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
friction point


Explanation:
comme ça commande des servos il peut y avoir du coinçage mécanique en aval de la commande

Francis MARC
Lithuania
Local time: 13:39
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 131

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Absolutely -- though I am less than certain about the actual term you've suggested; but your interpretation is spot on!
2 hrs

agree  Arthur Allmendinger
3 hrs
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hard point / spot


Explanation:
Fluke TL75 > Fluke Hard Point Test Lead Set TL75 > Fluke Test ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
Buy a Fluke TL75 or other Fluke Hard Point Test Lead Set electronic test equipment
accessories online from TestPath, The Specialists in Electronic Test ...
www.testpath.com/Product.aspx?pn=116-347 - 18k

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[PDF] Basis Altitude Hold systemFormat de fichier: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Version HTML
will then immediately release the elevators from servo control and enter the READY ... hard point must be found, or. built, for mounting the servo. ...
www.trioavionics.com/EZ-1 Alt Hold v1.3 .pdf

extra300s - [ Traduire cette page ]... Install balsa LE, taper, install control horn hard point, done. ... of offering a 'deluxe' hardware package consisting of aluminum servo control horns, Rocket City ...
www.gailvin.com/extra300s.htm - 4k - Résultat complémentaire


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Note added at 1 hr 13 mins (2005-12-15 07:41:36 GMT)
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Well, it's still "hard point" Rita! Try a Google search on software.

SCADA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - [ Traduire cette page ]
A hard point is representative of an actual input or output connected to the ...
Puffin Scada: An open source software toolset for building industrial ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA

Allan Jeffs
France
Local time: 12:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 45

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: /.../ If you say so; but none of your refs. actually illustrate it that way!
1 hr
  -> They were simply to show that "hard point" is used in an electronics context. The term IS used for servo-controlled mechanisms.

agree  AbdulHameed Al Hadidi
1 hr
  -> Thanks Hamid
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
stiff OR sticky spot OR point


Explanation:
Rita, it's nothing to do with software!

It simply means that your servo levers (etc.) must be free to move smoothly, without any points where they bind or stick. These kind of systems use as litle power as possible, and if you 'stall' the servo motor by something that is too stiff, it will draw more current, hence waste power and/or cause overheating by the excess current drawn.

Trust Dusty, I know what I'm talking about! :-)

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Note added at 3 hrs 10 mins (2005-12-15 09:39:16 GMT)
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Allan, you know I respect you far too much to be picky, but my peer comment was just to point out that 'hard point' is such a general term, it's easy to find it in all sorts of refs. that apparently associate it with a topic, where in fact there is little or no actual connection.

Your 1st ref. is referring to hardened tips on test probes (nothing to do with servos)

2nd and 3rd refs. appear to be referring to reinforced moutning points in modelling (again, not a lot to do with the actual servo action itself, or electronics)

and the 4th Wikipedia ref., comprehensive though it is, really is talking about a computer hardware kind of situation (which, despite Rita's instinct, this is NOT), and again, nothing to do with friction in servos.

See what I mean? :-)

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Note added at 7 hrs 22 mins (2005-12-15 13:50:59 GMT)
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CB has found the term from the gloss; although MM's suggestion of 'hard spot' was accepted by that Asker, I note that other answerers also suggested something around 'sticking', and I particularly like Parrot's suggestion of 'resistance', even though you would have to 'massage' this a bit to fit it in your sentence; maybe "...take care that there is no resistance in the controls..." or "...the controls offer no points of resistance..."

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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs 19 mins (2005-12-16 08:47:38 GMT) Post-grading
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Another word that could be useful is 'bind' -- "...make sure controls do not bind at any point..."

Although your servo syystem overall may of course involve software, Rita, it is perfectly clear from the context given (power supply / regulators / overheating...) that here they are purely and simply talking about the electro/mechanical interface of the servo, and sticky points and overheating have nothing directly to do with the software at all...


Tony M
France
Local time: 12:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 2116
Grading comment
Thanks, Dusty! In the end I used: be careful that there is no resistance in the controls because consumption can rapidly bring about overheating of the regulators - general enough to skip over the precise term because I am still not convinced of any of the above. Yes, software is involved here - I have the website.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Arthur Allmendinger
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Arthur!

agree  Charlie Bavington: I'm no expert but this was my interpretation when I read the Q. See also http://www.proz.com/kudoz/66606 .
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, CB!

agree  jacrav
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, Jacrav!
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