petits collets
English translation: lesser clergy
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| 13:43 Nov 25, 2005 |
| French to English translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Wine / Oenology / Viticulture / champagne again | |||||||
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|  Selected response from: Tony M France Local time: 11:03 | ||||||
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the pious/sanctimonious Explanation: Or pious/sanctimonious people 'On appelle petit collet un homme qui s’est mis dans la réforme, dans la dévotion, parce que les gens d’Église portent par modestie de petits collets, tandis que les gens du monde en portent de grands ornés de points et de dentelles. Et quelques fois, il se dit en mauvaise part des hypocrites, qui affectent des manières modestes, et surtout de porter un petit collet », Furetière, Dictionnaire www.ehess.fr/centres/grihl/ Textes/Cavaille%20JP/Tartuffe_98.htm - 202k - -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr 6 mins (2005-11-25 14:49:43 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- maybe you could also use bigots in this sense ... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr 7 mins (2005-11-25 14:51:26 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- sorry, I misread it! This is an explanation but not in your context! Dusty is right here. |
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peer agreement (net): +5lesser clergy Explanation: I think you can get away with describing an abbot as 'lesser' --- as distinct from high-rankers like bishops, cardinals etc. Remember, abbots were 2-a-penny in those days, and also, he might have had the title 'abbé' but not actually been in charge of an abbey, if you see what I mean --- it is a common-enough title even for someone like a village priest, and doesn't automatically imply head of an abbey as in English... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 58 mins (2005-11-25 14:41:38 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The very fact that the original author described him as a 'petit collet' would seem to confirm that this was just an ordinary priest with the courtesy title 'abbé', rather than an actual Father Abbot. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2005-11-25 15:19:29 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Mark, I assume you've realized that 'abbé grivois' is not his name as such, but a description: 'the saucy vicar' Unless his actual name is Abbé de Lattaignant (I don't believe so), one can only assume that he was the vicar of a village called Lattaignant (doesn't appear in today's list of communes) |
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