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御筆

English translation: Royal correspondence system (between Emperor and his subjects)

10:41 Nov 16, 2005
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History
Japanese term or phrase: 御筆
北宋から南宋にかけて、「対」システムを重視する方式から次第に「御筆」システム（皇帝、官僚間において直接的に文書をやりとりする交流方式）を重視する政治システムのへの変化を確認することができる
Yoshio Omata (X)
Japan
Local time: 18:55
English translation:Royal correspondence system (between Emperor and his subjects)
Explanation:
御筆 means not just another writing, but by the Emperor himself. Therefore the word Royal must be there to signify its importance and uniqueness.
I'm not assuming this is a "standard" translation. But when you have to devise a translation that conveys the essense in its close proximity, this one may not be so bad.

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Note added at 16 hrs 49 mins (2005-11-17 03:31:25 GMT)
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Or it can be "His Majesty Letter" system.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2Royal correspondence system (between Emperor and his subjects)
humbird
1"Correspondence System"
KathyT
1 -1examination system for selecting civil servants
V N Ganesh


  

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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
御筆
Royal correspondence system (between Emperor and his subjects)


Explanation:
御筆 means not just another writing, but by the Emperor himself. Therefore the word Royal must be there to signify its importance and uniqueness.
I'm not assuming this is a "standard" translation. But when you have to devise a translation that conveys the essense in its close proximity, this one may not be so bad.

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Note added at 16 hrs 49 mins (2005-11-17 03:31:25 GMT)
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Or it can be "His Majesty Letter" system.

humbird
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  V N Ganesh
8 hrs
  -> Thank you!
agree  fuckproz: I agree. You definitely need to set it apart from a "normal" type of correspondance. But Imperial would be better.
430 days
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
御筆
"Correspondence System"


Explanation:
just a guess...

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Note added at 17 hrs 27 mins (2005-11-17 04:09:23 GMT)
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There does not appear to be a 定訳 for this term.
It may be best to romanize the term in italics and provide an explanation in parentheses, such as (the Imperial Correspondence System used for communication between the Emperor and his officials), or similar.

Please note that 'Royal' is used for Kingdoms/monarchies with Kings/Queens, while 'Imperial' is used for Empires with Emperors/Empresses.

KathyT
Australia
Local time: 19:55
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Linden Tree LS: Very interesting and good point about "Royal" and "Imperial."
2 days 4 hrs
  -> Thanks very much, mieuxy (-:
disagree  humbird: Thank you Kathy about your added note. However Japanese 皇室 is always referred as "Royal Family", not "Imperial Family". When you think about Japan's modern history, it is quite acceptable. There should be more flexibility in the usage.
4 days
  -> You are wrong - Check your facts!!! It is much more common to say "Imperial Family", "Imperial Palace", etc. Furthermore, didn't you notice that this is NOT a question about modern history?
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): -1
御筆
examination system for selecting civil servants


Explanation:
Ancient Chinese Dynasties: Tang Dynasty: Political SystemA general information of the political system of the Tang Dynasty of ... At the outset, the political structure set up by the Sui continued to be used. ...
www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/history/tang.htm - 21k - Cached -


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Note added at 3 hrs 20 mins (2005-11-16 14:02:04 GMT)
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chinese written language used in south and north dynasties of Han
dynasty-I think this is more appropriate.
It is the set of characters that first appeared during the Han Dynasty (206 BC -
220 AD) and ... Categories: Chinese language | Logographic writing systems ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_character - 20k - 15 Nov 2005

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Note added at 21 hrs 56 mins (2005-11-17 08:37:39 GMT)
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This bureaucracy reached from the imperial palace down to the subprefecture, or district level, which was roughly equivalent to an American county. One secretariat drafted imperial decrees; a second monitored the reports of regional and provincial officials and the petitions of local notables.
http://www.emayzine.com/lectures/140asia.htm

V N Ganesh
Local time: 15:25
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  humbird: You are talking about 科挙制度, the issue at hand is entirely different matter.
14 hrs
  -> agreed
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