living together

English translation: cohabitation

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English term or phrase:	living together
Selected answer:	cohabitation
Entered by:	Elizabeth Lyons

04:00 Aug 7, 2005

English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Social Sciences

English term or phrase: living together

I need an adj. that means "living together" (with or without marriage)

Marital status
1. xxx
2. Divorced
3. Separated

Adda

cohabiting

Explanation:
cohabitation : )

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Note added at 3 mins (2005-08-07 04:03:32 GMT)
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There is also domestic partnership and rooming together, as in room mates. There are a number of choices out there.

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Note added at 9 hrs 48 mins (2005-08-07 13:48:40 GMT)
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Here is a legal definition of cohabitation:

COHABITATION AGREEMENT - Also called a living-together contract. A document that spells out the terms of a relationship and often addresses financial issues and how property will be divided if the relationship ends.

Says nothing about \"marriage\".

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Note added at 9 hrs 50 mins (2005-08-07 13:51:00 GMT)
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And I agree that its typical connotation in the United States is an extra-marital relationship, but technically, it can be either and that was the question. There is no mention here as to how typical it is, or whether it appears on standard forms in any specific or actual sense. This could all be a hypothetical and even if it is not, we could not construe the situation from the question as it was first posed here. : ))

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Note added at 9 hrs 55 mins (2005-08-07 13:56:14 GMT)
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And no one asked what was the most common term, the question is another term for living together, i.e. co habitation, can\'t be closer than that!!!

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Note added at 11 hrs 16 mins (2005-08-07 15:17:16 GMT)
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In fact, the asker, did not indicate that the category was law or marketing but cinema, fil, TV, drama - it could be for any of these and have no relationship to any legal system, whether Roman or Common or Constitutional at all : D

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Note added at 14 hrs 13 mins (2005-08-07 18:14:17 GMT)
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These questions often make good Rorschach/projective tests! We often read into them things that are just not there (or at least not written there). I appreciate your acknowledgement Dusty : )

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Note added at 14 hrs 38 mins (2005-08-07 18:39:15 GMT)
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People have said this is a form - it may or may not be. The asker, as of this moment, has not said it is a form of any kind, but simply listed three numeric categories. There are other things that this listing can mean, including an organized way of conveying a concept. There is nothing written about form and the category is not law or finance or marketing it is the arts!!! All of that is beside the point. The asker requested another way to describe living together.

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Note added at 21 hrs 34 mins (2005-08-08 01:35:21 GMT)
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My simple point is that, given the limited but specific information at the onset of this question, any of the answers given here are adequate although some more awkward and less used than others. We simply did not know anything more than the asker gave us and my answers stand accordingly. I am confident that Adda will make the final choice based upon a greater understanding of the origin of the question.

Cheers everyone; it has been an interesting exercise : ))

Selected response from:

Elizabeth Lyons
United States
Local time: 11:33

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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

5 +14

cohabiting

Elizabeth Lyons

5 +3

"Married (legal or de facto)"

KathyT

4 +2

married or living as married

Nick Lingris

common law marriage

Tony M

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

"Married (legal or de facto)"

Explanation:
Hello Adda,

Although I agree with Elizabeth's answer above, I wonder if "cohabiting" is too broad an interpretation for your text.
As you are talking about "marital status", I suggest that you use the term "married", followed by ('legal or de facto') in parentheses.
In Australia, de facto relationships have as much weight as "legal" marriages, and can also include same-sex relationships. There is a lot of talk here about 'legalizing' same-sex marriages.

Anyway, as anyone can 'cohabit' without being in a (romantic) relationship, such as college roommates, siblings, or otherwise, I think this expression may fit your text better.

See:
The Population Conference - Plenary 1 -
... Dynamics. A 'family' for census purposes is defined as a husband and wife (in a
legal or de facto marriage), with or without children of any age living in the same dwelling - or a sole parent, of any marital status, living with children of ...
www.executive.govt.nz/96-99/minister/bradford/population/co...

[RTF] Civil Law (Wrongs) Amendment Act 2002 (No 2) Rich Text Format -
domestic relationship means a personal relationship (other than a legal or de facto marriage relationship) between 2 adults in which one provides personal or financial commitment and support of a domestic nature for the material benefit ...
www.legislation.act.gov.au/ b/db_2439/current/rtf/db_2439.rtf

International Tax Dialogue (ITD)
Explains the special capital gains tax concessions that may be available when assets are transferred as a result of the breakdown of a legal or de facto marriage.
www.itdweb.org/default.asp?lang=2&fun=asearchCategoryTopic&...

Marriage breakdown and transferring of assets -
This applies to you if your legal or de facto marriage ended on or after 20 September 1985 and:. you transfer an asset to or receive an asset from your spouse, or; a company or trustee of a trust transfers an asset to you or your spouse ...
www.ato.gov.au/individuals/ content.asp?doc=/content/37174.htm

[PDF] Quality of life book 4 (Page 20)
‘family’ is defined as a husband or wife (in a legal or de-facto marriage) with or without children of any age living. in the same dwelling – or a sole parent, of any marital status, living with children of any age. ...
www.bigcities.govt.nz/pdf2001/household.pdf

HTH ;-)

KathyT
Australia
Local time: 04:33
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

bigedsenior: Since the question ask for marital status, this is the only correct answer.

58 mins

-> Thanks, bigedsenior ;-) I'm glad you agree!

agree

Johan Venter: Absolutely. It's a wonder so many professionals agreed with the first answer

1 hr

-> Thank you, venter ;-)

agree

lindaellen (X)

1 hr

-> Thank you, Linda ;-)

neutral

Elizabeth Lyons: The question says with OR Without marriage; the very 1st thing asker says is "with or w/o ", marital status = generic categ.here @wh to frame the Q// lol - look who's being defensive - my point exactly! : )))

8 hrs

-> No, the question asks for married or not, AS A CATEGORY OF MARITAL STATUS!!! Therefore, "Married (legal or de facto)" fits better. "Cohabiting" is too broad in this context!// Really, is it necessary to get so defensive??!!!//I think that's pretty clear!

3 hrs confidence:

common law marriage

Explanation:
In the UK, this is the term that would usually be used to describe such a relationship; however, be warned that it is not really appropriate for use on a form!

I would have thought the missing item in your list is simply 'married' (as another answerer has already stated), and it is not the business of the form's issuer to know what kind of marriage this is (legalized, common law, etc.) 'Married' is a common enough euphemism for any kind of 'living together' relationship, and as far as I know, I've never come across a more 'politically-correct' and gender-non-specific term.

'Cohabiting' would be my favourite alternative, except that as BigEd and Venter have both pointed out, I've never actually come across this on a form (yet!).

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Note added at 12 hrs 42 mins (2005-08-07 16:42:36 GMT)
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As Elizabeth so rightly points out, a bit more context would help a lot!
If this is an informal situation, then \'living together\' would possibly do...

Tony M
France
Local time: 20:33
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 3385

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

married or living as married

Explanation:
[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="married or living ...]

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Note added at 14 hrs 21 mins (2005-08-07 18:21:42 GMT)
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Here is an example of exactly what the asker is asking for:
What is your current marital status?
- Married or living as married
- Divorced or separated
- Widowed or widower
- Never married
[http://www.farmfamilyexposure.org/Applicat.pdf]

Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:33
Native speaker of:

Greek
PRO pts in pair: 351

1 min confidence:

peer agreement (net): +14

cohabiting

Elizabeth Lyons
United States
Local time: 11:33
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 122

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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Jack Doughty

1 min

-> Hi Jack : ) Thanks!

agree

Andrey Belousov (X)

36 mins

-> Andrey, thank you!

agree

flipendo: Exactly, Eliz. The asker never stated it was about a form or it would appear on a form. She simply and plainly asked for an adj. meaning "living together"... Construing this was intended for a form is only out of place right now!

37 mins

-> Kalispera, Flipendo : ) and thank you.//Thanks for this confirmation Flipendo, I try not to read too much between lines and make assumptions, based on experience ; ))! I appreciate you for taking the time to say this.

agree

zax

40 mins

-> Zax, thank you : )

agree

TranslateThis

41 mins

-> Thats T T: )

agree

Kurt Porter

1 hr

-> Kurt, hi, and thanks

agree

Dave Calderhead

1 hr

-> Thanks Dave

agree

Balaban Cerit

1 hr

-> Thanks Balaban

disagree

bigedsenior: The question asks for marital status, item 1. Cohabiting is not one of them.

2 hrs

-> No it doesn't Biged, it says with or without marriage. : ) The term is technically correct

disagree

Johan Venter: With Bigedsenior. I've never seen 'cohabiting' as an option on such a form.

2 hrs

-> This is peculiar to some situation we don't know, right, I've never seen it but, it could be from a novel or a hypothetical in a mock court, how do we know. We are just answering a question and there is no need for being insulting : )

agree

Olga B

4 hrs

-> Thanks Olga

agree

Bianca Jacobsohn: It depends on a lot of things (hint: more context). I've certainly seen this in marketing forms/questionnaires, etc. But not in anything official...

5 hrs

-> Bianca, exactly, but see my note to venter above and thank you : )

agree

Sinziana Paltineanu (X): see also nonmarital cohabitation and marital cohabitation.. extra-marital c., and premarital c.

6 hrs

-> Sinziana, thanks so much : )

agree

humbird

11 hrs

-> Thanks humbird, I sure appreciate it : )

neutral

Nick Lingris: On a form -and Adda does say it is an option on a form- you could have "Married or cohabiting" as one of the options. Cohabiting, on its own, could only be the answer one would fill in next to 'Marital status'. // Adda gives the options and the xxx's.

14 hrs

-> Nick, where do you see the asker say or even imply "form"??? It is in an arts/film category. Co habiting means living together. The question is another way of saying living together!!!//Not exclusive to forms; all sorts of uses for that type of list.

agree

Refugio: married or cohabiting ... puzzled by the disagrees and neutral

14 hrs

-> People are "riffing" on each others assumptions - thanks for the confirmation Ruth, I thought this was so simple : ))

agree

Cristina Santos

19 hrs

-> Cristina, hi, and thank you : )

agree

Alfa Trans (X)

1 day 13 hrs

-> Marju! Hi there. It is always so nice to hear from you and many thanks : ))

agree

RHELLER: good because it does not specify gender

4 days

-> Hi Rita, so nice to hear from you and I appreciate your comment here too. : )

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