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Reviews now possible for "Translation Mastermind" (a private FB group included in Plus subscription)
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Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
May 8

Thanks to some excellent feedback from a forum member, we have now added a series of reviews to the Translation Mastermind website*.

A reminder that the Facebook group** is completely free to all ProZ Plus members, and that there is a small monthly or annual charge if you are not a Plus member.

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Disclaimer: we are well aware that Facebook is not for everyone, and that's just fine.

However, it certainly is for the 950 members (not to menti
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Thanks to some excellent feedback from a forum member, we have now added a series of reviews to the Translation Mastermind website*.

A reminder that the Facebook group** is completely free to all ProZ Plus members, and that there is a small monthly or annual charge if you are not a Plus member.

****

Disclaimer: we are well aware that Facebook is not for everyone, and that's just fine.

However, it certainly is for the 950 members (not to mention the 26k members of the main ProZ.com group on FB), and therefore just might be for you too.

*****

* https://translationmastermind.com/product/membership/

** https://www.facebook.com/groups/thetranslationmastermind/

[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2019-05-10 13:45 GMT]
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:39
Member (2008)
Italian to English
NOthing to do with me May 8

Andrew Morris wrote:

Thanks to some excellent feedback from Tom in London, we have now added a series of reviews to the Translation Mastermind website*.



This has got nothing to do with me. Please remove my name from your post. I suggest "Thanks to some excellent feedback, we have now added...."

[Edited at 2019-05-08 11:17 GMT]


 

Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
TOPIC STARTER
Spitting image May 8

Tom in London wrote:

Andrew Morris wrote:

Thanks to some excellent feedback from Tom in London, we have now added a series of reviews to the Translation Mastermind website*.



This has got nothing to do with me. Please remove my name from your post. I suggest "Thanks to some excellent feedback, we have now added...."

[Edited at 2019-05-08 11:17 GMT]


Wow. Just wow.

I was simply trying to credit you for your comment that there were no reviews on the site, which prompted the action.

Unless that was a different "Tom in London" but with the same face, and the same rather distinctive tone of voice?

Ok, will remove your name forthwith. Although I feel bound to point out it is something of an exercise in futility as both your response and my response to your response contain your name.


 

Sandra& Kenneth  Identity Verified
Israel
Local time: 11:39
Member (2009)
French to English
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This is meaningless May 8

Andrew Morris wrote:

However, it certainly is for the 950 members (not to mention the 26k members of the main ProZ.com group on FB), and therefore just might be for you too.

This number is meaningless. It includes a lot of people (like me) who registered, had a look and decided it was a waste of time.
BTW, I find your attitude and the personal attacks on people who disagree with you quite offensive.
This is definitely not an incentive to renew my Plus subscription.

I don't need you to tell me that your Mastermind forum is not for me. This clearly implies that I am incapable of appreciating your greatness. You should learn to treat your colleagues with respect.

Sandra


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Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
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Illogical leaps May 8

Sandra& Kenneth wrote:

I don't need you to tell me that your Mastermind forum is not for me. This clearly implies that I am incapable of appreciating your greatness.

Sandra


I am sorry, but it implies no such thing.

If I was the type to take endless offence (as you seem to be), I could be offended by that rather petty personal remark.

Luckily, I'm not.


 

Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
TOPIC STARTER
Staying on topic May 8

The only point of this rather factual little thread is, once again, to indicate the existence of a service provided by ProZ.com for its Plus members.

And to indicate the existence of reviews, so that people can judge for themselves.

That is it, folks.

I am simply astonished by how quickly such a thread can be subverted, mangled and twisted.


 

Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
TOPIC STARTER
A few facts May 8


This number is meaningless. It includes a lot of people (like me) who registered, had a look and decided it was a waste of time.


Personally, I find that facts are always helpful in helping us reach a sense of meaning, in an apparently meaningless universe.

The group currently has 949 members.

In the last month, according to Facebook, 859 of those members were active. That amounts to 90% of the group.

That means they posted, commented or liked a thread. Presumably because they wanted to. No one was forced at gunpoint.


 

Katalin Horváth McClure  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 04:39
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You have the tools, Andrew, please use them May 8

Andrew Morris wrote:

The only point of this rather factual little thread is, once again, to indicate the existence of a service provided by ProZ.com for its Plus members.

And to indicate the existence of reviews


May I make a humble suggestion for such cases?
Post the message, as an announcement, and then immediately close the thread.


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Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
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Is it really necessary? May 8

Katalin Horváth McClure wrote:

Andrew Morris wrote:

The only point of this rather factual little thread is, once again, to indicate the existence of a service provided by ProZ.com for its Plus members.

And to indicate the existence of reviews


May I make a humble suggestion for such cases?
Post the message, as an announcement, and then immediately close the thread.


Not a bad idea, but it is also an admission of defeat. I'd far prefer to trust people to engage with a simple piece of information in a mature way... even though that trust is fast beginning to wane.

I hope even critical onlookers can see nothing incendiary in my first post. In fact, it's rather a dull little thing, and deliberately so.


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Katalin Horváth McClure  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 04:39
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Announcement vs. battlecall May 8

Andrew Morris wrote:

Katalin Horváth McClure wrote:

Andrew Morris wrote:

The only point of this rather factual little thread is, once again, to indicate the existence of a service provided by ProZ.com for its Plus members.

And to indicate the existence of reviews


May I make a humble suggestion for such cases?
Post the message, as an announcement, and then immediately close the thread.


Not a bad idea, but it is also an admission of defeat.


My suggestion was for simple announcements, which you claimed your post was.
IMHO, announcements have nothing to do with “defeat” (neither with victory), their goal is to relay information.
I am not sure why you feel the need to frame these discussions as battles.
Is it a mindset problem?


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Andrew Morris
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Advice well taken May 8

Katalin Horváth McClure wrote:

I am not sure why you feel the need to frame these discussions as battles.
Is it a mindset problem?


Haha I am always prepared to work on my mindset, but pray tell me, did you read the above comments???


Elizabeth Tamblin
 

Katalin Horváth McClure  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 04:39
Member (2002)
English to Hungarian
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Take it as you wish May 8

Andrew Morris wrote:

Katalin Horváth McClure wrote:

I am not sure why you feel the need to frame these discussions as battles.
Is it a mindset problem?


Haha I am always prepared to work on my mindset, but pray tell me, did you read the above comments???


Your prayers are answered, I tell you: yes, I read them.
I have no idea what your expectations were in terms of replies to your post. (This is not a question that you need to answer. It is a statement.) To be honest with you, the comments were pretty much in line with what I thought would follow when I read your OP.
I just thought if you positioned your post as an announcement, and physically made it into one by closing the thread right away,(perhaps I should clarify it: I mean closing it before any replies are made) it would have served its stated purpose better. Clearly, it is too late now, as it is a discussion thread now, but perhaps something to consider for the future. That’s all it was, a humble suggestion that you can take or ignore at your will.

Since I have nothing to add to the original topic, I won’t post again here.


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Chris S  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Swedish to English
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Entry barriers May 8

Intrigued by what a positive, curated forum might look like, I tried to sign up.

But my application was turned down because I am not considered to be suitable material.



[Edited at 2019-05-08 14:04 GMT]


Andrew Morris
 

Andrew Morris
ProZ.com team
TOPIC STARTER
Taking notes. May 8

So we now quote private correspondence in public (although I now see that has craftily been edited out).

Good grief.

PS any club, society, association, group has a right to refuse admission and I stand 100% by what I wrote.


 

Ildiko Santana  Identity Verified
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Local time: 01:39
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Promotion of paid resources, with pricing May 8

Promotion of paid resources is always helpful, but I believe that in order to make an informed decision, it is useful to include the pricing information. The original post here (at ProZ.com) posted by Andrew Morris in his capacity as member of the ProZ.com site team, informs us (ProZ.com members) that there are reviews about another online resource called 'Translation Mastermind', operated by Andrew Morris. (There is no conflict of interest or violation of the ProZ.com rule that forbids self-pro... See more
Promotion of paid resources is always helpful, but I believe that in order to make an informed decision, it is useful to include the pricing information. The original post here (at ProZ.com) posted by Andrew Morris in his capacity as member of the ProZ.com site team, informs us (ProZ.com members) that there are reviews about another online resource called 'Translation Mastermind', operated by Andrew Morris. (There is no conflict of interest or violation of the ProZ.com rule that forbids self-promotion of money-making businesses, given that the topic was started by ProZ.com staff.)
For the resource promoted under this topic, freelance membership costs €4 per month or €39 per year. Same resource is free for ProZ.com Plus subscribers; ProZ.com Plus membership costs $180 per year.
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