Activating Win 7 Speech Recognition on a non-English OS
Thread poster: Stuart Hoskins
Stuart Hoskins
Stuart Hoskins
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Sep 3, 2013

Although I want to use Speech Recognition in English, I have Czech Windows, so the SR function is disabled (or perhaps missing entirely). If my aim is to use SR just for speech-to-text (i.e. not to control the whole computer with voice commands, but only for translation purposes), is there any way of activating this?

(Background: I was all set to buy DNS, but then Russell’s comment
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Although I want to use Speech Recognition in English, I have Czech Windows, so the SR function is disabled (or perhaps missing entirely). If my aim is to use SR just for speech-to-text (i.e. not to control the whole computer with voice commands, but only for translation purposes), is there any way of activating this?

(Background: I was all set to buy DNS, but then Russell’s comment here http://www.proz.com/forum/speech_recognition/190597-dns_differences_between_the_premium_and_home_editions.html made me think about Win 7’s Speech Recognition.)
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James McVay
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If I were you… Sep 3, 2013

I wouldn't let Russell's comment stop me from using Dragon, if I were you. A lot of Michael's comparison of Dragon Standard (called Home Edition now) with Dragon Preferred (Premium) in that same discussion also applies to Windows 7 speech recognition.

I started out using Win 7 speech recognition but found it too limited for professional use. I invested in Dragon 11 and have sinceupgraded to Dragon 12.5. I feel my increased productivity has more than repaid my investment.

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I wouldn't let Russell's comment stop me from using Dragon, if I were you. A lot of Michael's comparison of Dragon Standard (called Home Edition now) with Dragon Preferred (Premium) in that same discussion also applies to Windows 7 speech recognition.

I started out using Win 7 speech recognition but found it too limited for professional use. I invested in Dragon 11 and have sinceupgraded to Dragon 12.5. I feel my increased productivity has more than repaid my investment.

[Edited at 2013-09-04 14:03 GMT]

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Anton Konashenok
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Czech Republic
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Dragon wins hands down Sep 3, 2013

I compared Dragon 12 to built-in Windows 8 speech recogniser on my new computer just a week ago. Dragon has several different speech models; the most advanced one, BestMatch V, is very CPU-intensive and would be hopelessly lagging on an old machine. However, on my new quad-core i7 it worked like a charm and after 5 minutes of training recognised two paragraphs of text from my recent translation without a single error. Conversely, Windows built-in module had lots of problems.

 
neilmac
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Go for Dragon Sep 4, 2013

Like so many other Microsoft W7 bells and whistles, their speech recog SW is (ahem) not very good. I recommend Dragon and I don't think it's too expensive.

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neilmac
neilmac
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Same here Sep 4, 2013

James McVay wrote:

I wouldn't let Russell's comment stop me from using Dragon, if I were you... I feel my increased productivity has more than repaid my investment.


Ditto! Apart from the productivity angle, I also have fewer problems with wrist and back pain since I started using Dragon 3 years ago (I know this sounds like an advert, but it's true).


 
Anton Konashenok
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Czech Republic
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A little more on Dragon vs. Windows Sep 11, 2013

Continuing to try Dragon, I was surprised to see how big its dictionary is. Even the general-purpose version (not the medical one) successfully recognised such words as "anti-cholinestherase", "neuromuscular" or "cyclodextrin". It also knows the NATO phonetic alphabet (e.g. saying "alpha bravo charlie delta" instantly produces ABCD). On the other hand, Windows recognition seems to be tuned to the consumer or managerial vocabulary - in particular, it recognised "landing" as "lending" on several a... See more
Continuing to try Dragon, I was surprised to see how big its dictionary is. Even the general-purpose version (not the medical one) successfully recognised such words as "anti-cholinestherase", "neuromuscular" or "cyclodextrin". It also knows the NATO phonetic alphabet (e.g. saying "alpha bravo charlie delta" instantly produces ABCD). On the other hand, Windows recognition seems to be tuned to the consumer or managerial vocabulary - in particular, it recognised "landing" as "lending" on several attempts, even though I tried to pronounce the word very clearly.Collapse


 
Stuart Hoskins
Stuart Hoskins
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Oh Dragon, where have you been all my life? Sep 11, 2013

I bought Dragon (Home Edition 12) based on the recommendations here and I’m very impressed. The only downsides are that (i) Trados is a must for me (a hefty chunk of EUR-Lex in there), so as far as I can make out I need to use the dictation box (I can’t edit and train directly in Trados), which slows things down, and (ii) my attempts to train “s.r.o.” and “a.s.” (Ltd and Plc in Czech) have failed, which is a bit of a pain. The tip on the NATO phonetic alphabet will be very handy. Thanks.

 
philgoddard
philgoddard
United States
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. Sep 11, 2013

I installed my old copy of DNS 11 on a new computer yesterday. I hadn't realised that the Home version doesn't allow you to export the user profile from the old computer, so I had to retrain it. It took me about fifteen minutes to achieve 98% recognition accuracy. That's how good a product DNS is - unlike so much software, it improves your productivity and makes you more money.

 
Anton Konashenok
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Old user profile Sep 11, 2013

Phil, you can extract the old user profile manually, just by copying the appropriate files from the old computer to the same location on the new one. In my case, they are in c:\ProgramData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking12\Users\Anton - this is for Windows 7 or 8.

 
philgoddard
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Anton Sep 11, 2013

I didn't know that. Thanks very much, and I'll make a note for next time.

 


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