Scam alert Teerakin Wanwalee / advanced payment
Thread poster: LisaErnstDeLorm

LisaErnstDeLorm
France
Local time: 07:58
English to Dutch
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Mar 3

Hi There,
I have not seen any topic on a scam with this persons name yet, but they seem to be at it again, with a new name, although a same type of scam.

Like with some other scams listed here, this person proposed an advance payment for a big FR>NL translation job, and told me in poor French and English that the requested FR>NL translation was 'for personal use' when I asked them their company name and number.

They even sent me an ID copy to convince me, an asi
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Hi There,
I have not seen any topic on a scam with this persons name yet, but they seem to be at it again, with a new name, although a same type of scam.

Like with some other scams listed here, this person proposed an advance payment for a big FR>NL translation job, and told me in poor French and English that the requested FR>NL translation was 'for personal use' when I asked them their company name and number.

They even sent me an ID copy to convince me, an asian woman on the photograph, supposed to be from New York but upon checking, I saw that the IP address from which the unregistered ProZ email was send is from Frankfurt AmMain in Germany...

There is a LinkedIn and Facebook account under the same name, but both recently made and both without photograph and not more than 1 contact/friend..

I don't have any proof, but am pretty sure that, also with my questions being ignored, it's a hoax to get hold of my bank account info and a telephone number (used in France for checking your identity for online payments).

Just wanted to let colleagues know. The person will surely strike again under a different name, so stay aware!

cheers
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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)
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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)  Identity Verified
Thailand
Local time: 12:58
Member (2004)
English to Thai
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Recent scams Mar 5

I rarely meet with scams in recent years, partly due to progress in Internet search. However, scam originators evolve and linguists need to research more to prevent them.

Soonthon L.


 

Dominique Stiver  Identity Verified
France
Member (2012)
English to French
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Scam alert Teerakin Wanwalee Mar 19

I have received a request for a big project (over 20,000 words) from New York (mail sent via proz) and I came to the idea of checking the name on the Internet so that I found this comment.

I received an ID card after insisting that I needed the full contact details before sending price and delivery time.

Thank you for your comment.

I just wanted to write one more comment to inform all colleagues that the "person is back" and can strike at any time.
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I have received a request for a big project (over 20,000 words) from New York (mail sent via proz) and I came to the idea of checking the name on the Internet so that I found this comment.

I received an ID card after insisting that I needed the full contact details before sending price and delivery time.

Thank you for your comment.

I just wanted to write one more comment to inform all colleagues that the "person is back" and can strike at any time.

Take care!
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Verena Milbers
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Evert VAN DE POLL
France
Local time: 07:58
English to Dutch
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Teerakin Wanwalee, how the ploy works Mar 21

Same story again.
This person contacted me for the translation of two articles from FR to NL. We agreed a price and he/she offered to pay 50% in advance. For which I had to give the IBAN and address of my bank. So far so good.

But when I asked for a company name and address to write my invoice, I was told off.
I wrote this person that I found this a strange procedure and that I had warned my bank to block any attempt of this person to debit money from my account.
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Same story again.
This person contacted me for the translation of two articles from FR to NL. We agreed a price and he/she offered to pay 50% in advance. For which I had to give the IBAN and address of my bank. So far so good.

But when I asked for a company name and address to write my invoice, I was told off.
I wrote this person that I found this a strange procedure and that I had warned my bank to block any attempt of this person to debit money from my account.
Then I was sent an ID card from a person in New York called Teerakin Wanwalee.
But the emails were never signed by anyone. Probably a fake ID or a stolen one.
A few days later, a message announcing that 'the money' would be transferred to my bank account. Supposedly the advance for the translation
Surprise. A week later, a cheque is credited on my account, the amount being ten times as much as the agreed advance.
A few days later, an email asking me whether 'the money' had arrived.
Curious to know what would come next and how the ploy worked, I responded : "I can only verify when I know the exact amount of money and the mode of transfer".
The next email was in English! All the former ones were in French, with a standard opening phrase.
It stated that 'a check of …. € was deposited on your bank'. The amount was exact.
The following day, an email, again in English: 'I will contact you shortly to give you the bank details to sort out the difference'.
This confirmed what I had already suspected so far. The ploy works as follows.
Someone steals a checkbook, but to draw money from the bank of the checks, he/she will not write one to his/he own account, because the other bank can, and will certainly, reclaim the money. He/she needs a third person for that, and therefore infiltrates the site of a translators' network, looking for a translator willing to do a job for a certain amount.
Promising to pay half of it in advance, he/she asks for the IBAN of the translator. And now the trick can be played.
He/she writes out a (stolen) check to the translator for a much higher amount, in this case 10 times the agreed advance. The next step is to verify if the check has been credited to the third person's account, followed by a request to restitute the difference, no doubt on another bankaccount to which he/she has access, no doubt saying that an error was made.
If the translator (me in this case) would be so naïve to pay the difference to the crook, the latter would have obtained a large sum of money. Meanwhile the bank of the check can reclaim at any time the original amount from the bank of the translator, without any possibility of the latter to prevent that. So in the end the translator will have restituted the credited money (which is justice), and he will have lost 'the difference' payed to the crook which he cannot claim back!


[Edited at 2019-03-21 11:34 GMT]
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Katarzyna Slowikova  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:58
English to Czech
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??? Mar 21

Evert VAN DE POLL wrote:


Someone steals a checkbook, but to draw money from the bank of the checks, he/she will not write one to his/he own account, because the other bank can, and will certainly, reclaim the money. He/she needs a third person for that, and therefore infiltrates the site of a translators' network, looking for a translator willing to do a job for a certain amount.



[Edited at 2019-03-21 11:34 GMT]

What makes you think there're real stolen checks involved?
The overpayment scam has been known to work with fake checks, even allegedly very poorly faked copies. In this case no real money is being sent to you, while you of course send the real money to the scammer.

And a question: when you write the check "was credited" to your account, do you mean this happened just automatically, without you deciding on cashing the check or even being aware of it in advance and able to prevent it? I've seen this kind of thing described in another post by a US-based translator and thought it's not possible in Europe (i.e. the SEPA countries; I'm supposing you have an account in France or elsewhere in the EU (?)). Have you been fined by the bank for the fake check (the US translator was)? Is there any way of preventing random people sending fake checks to your account...???


 

Andrea Halbritter  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 07:58
French to German
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Around again Jun 13

Just had an email from him/her ...

Valérie Madesclair
 

Claire Hu
United States
Local time: 22:58
English to Chinese
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Got an email from this guy too. Jun 18

Got an email from this guy too.

 

Catherine Wong
United States
Local time: 19:58
New user
English to Chinese
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I just received an email for this person.. Jun 21

I just received an email for this person..

Valérie Madesclair
 

Agathe Mpona
United States
Local time: 01:58
English to French
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Just got an email from him Jun 21

I am glad you wrote all these comments.......

Valérie Madesclair
 

Wai Yan (Ryan) Ng
United States
Local time: 19:58
New user
English to Chinese
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Got an email from this guy too... Jul 5

Should I block out his payment?

 


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