opinions on microsoft security essentials
Thread poster: Emma Goldsmith

Emma Goldsmith  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 01:01
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
Nov 28, 2009

I've got AVG antivirus free version 8.5 installed on my PC and haven't had any problems with it, although I know other people have had issues with Trados/AVG clashing.

I was wondering about changing to microsft security essentials. Has anyone got any experience with it?

Thanks in advance,
Emma


 

Maria Jovino  Identity Verified
Sweden
Local time: 01:01
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Microsoft essentials less hassle than AVG Nov 28, 2009

Hello Emma,

I don't have Trados, so I can't answer about the clash between AVG and Trados.
I had AVG free antivirus edition last week, but I had to remove it and reinstal my old Microsoft Essentials, because:
- it slowed down my computer
- it was blocking Firefox and preventing any pop-up, even on secured sites (banks, proz..), even after unchecking the respective box.

So, I went back to my old Microsoft Essentials, whose protection I think is complet
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Hello Emma,

I don't have Trados, so I can't answer about the clash between AVG and Trados.
I had AVG free antivirus edition last week, but I had to remove it and reinstal my old Microsoft Essentials, because:
- it slowed down my computer
- it was blocking Firefox and preventing any pop-up, even on secured sites (banks, proz..), even after unchecking the respective box.

So, I went back to my old Microsoft Essentials, whose protection I think is complete and easy to handle, no hassle whatsoever.

However, I had the AVG free complete protection at the beginning of the year (one month free trial version), including ID protection, firewall etc... That was great: it still slowed my computer a lot during the scan, but I really felt protected. They communicate a lot with you, and always ask you what to do, give advice and information about the threats (potential or real) detected.
I am missing all that communication with Microsoft Essentials. But, it seems to be efficient.
I hope this helps a little!
Maria
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DZiW
Ukraine
English to Russian
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'Maximum Security, Minimum Resource Requirements' Nov 29, 2009

MSE ('Morro') highlights:
- it's just a succeeder/ replacement of another failure named Windows Live OneCare;

- its simple interface and decent requirements for it provides less features: it's posed as a standard (basic) edition - NOT as comprehensive protection;
(by chance, in opposite to planned paid AV 'Forefront' based on MSE)

- it's rather 'antipiracy' campaign (blocking non-genuine systems) than
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MSE ('Morro') highlights:
- it's just a succeeder/ replacement of another failure named Windows Live OneCare;

- its simple interface and decent requirements for it provides less features: it's posed as a standard (basic) edition - NOT as comprehensive protection;
(by chance, in opposite to planned paid AV 'Forefront' based on MSE)

- it's rather 'antipiracy' campaign (blocking non-genuine systems) than antimalware or user data protection;

- 8,5 MB download after updating became 170+ MB

Specifications:
> gradually slows down
> filescanning is 10-30% slower comparing to most other solutions
> no integrated firewall protection (the source of 90% of infections and dataleak)
> poor antikeylogger (malwares reading what you type)
> poor anti-rootkit component (to find and deactivate hidden drivers/ programs)
> rather false alarming
> cheater (sometimes says the malware is deleted while it's NOT)
> rather moderate protection from modern threats
> size???

Conclusion: it's still raw stuff, yet may be useful if one is careful enough and have nothing better at the moment. As people say Microsoft and security don't come together well.

Remedy:
- stay sensible (rule #1)
- learn a little about OS configuring (namely - services and autoruns management) and disable unnecessary services (holes) and applications
- don't forget to read Events register, if necessary
- get familiar with processes names in the Process Manager and if something is wrong then monitor them
- replace built-in firewall (it's still no good blocking outgoing connections)
- install SandBoxIE (virtual sandbox for browsers and unknown applications)
- install a good HIPS (Host-based Intrusion Prevention System) like ThreatFire
- make regular reliable data backup (preferably NOT built-in system recovery)
- and now you can use ANY antivirus solution)

It's still much to do.
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Michael Kazakov  Identity Verified
Israel
Local time: 02:01
Member (2007)
English to Russian
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For Windows 7 Nov 29, 2009

Emma Goldsmith wrote:
I was wondering about changing to microsft security essentials. Has anyone got any experience with it?


I have very positive experience with Security Essentials on Windows 7 Home Premium.

I also had AVG pack installed on one of the computers (AVG Security Suite, Family edition) but for whatever reason it slowed down the system to the point of making it completely unusable.

MS Security Essentials works like a charm and if you have a legitimate version of Windows then this tool is definitely worth a try.


 

Emma Goldsmith  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 01:01
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
TOPIC STARTER
thanks for answers Dec 1, 2009

Different strokes for different folks!
Thanks for everyone's opinions. (Now I really don't know what to do!)


 

DZiW
Ukraine
English to Russian
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no put out Dec 2, 2009

Emma, don't color your judgment so quickly. Just google for the subject and make your choice. Of course, you should know every reason behind it.

Yet I still think that you can easily find many better *free* solutions than MSE (especially considering its features and size).

So, if you're really serious about your data security then
- learn what services you need running, what unnecessary, and what are to stop;
- go to www.sandboxie.com and read about this shell (or like);
Sandboxie runs your programs in an isolated space which prevents them from making permanent changes to other programs and data in your computer.

- go to www.ThreatFire.com and read about this proactive tool (or like);
By implementing sophisticated real-time behavioral analysis ThreatFire is able to stop never- before-seen "zero-day" threats solely by detecting their malicious activity.


I tried them both and found useful. It's a good start to provide better data security, not forgetting about critical/sensitive data backup (I use Acronis Home and an external HDD/ flash).

If you understand the idea you can use *any* AV scanner or no at all)
I have nothing against MSE, but it's still too young to be essential.

P.S. *if* you (or your ISP) have a properly configured hardware router then you probably don't need a software firewall protection else check www.matousec.com


 
microsoft security Mar 28, 2010

Unlike these others,I would go with Microsoft Security Essentials;it has been getting some very good reviews from security software specialists and testers (there are some reviews on YouTube that you can check out). It has both the anti-virus and anti-spyware but I would add either the free version of Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware or SUPERAnti-Spyware or even both. home security systemshome security systemsCollapse


 


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