Poll: Creative vs. non-creative translation: which do you prefer to do?
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LilianNekipelov
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Creative, of course. Sep 19, 2015

But what is non-creative. All translation is creation, unless you mean something like a Birth Certificate, the short form.

 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Other! (meaning no preference) Sep 19, 2015

These last years, I have been translating mostly two types of texts: a) medical devices certificates and IFUs where no creativity whatsoever is allowed and you must be very careful to follow the source document, and b) magazine and newspaper articles (politics, economy, culture...) which are always a test to my creativity and allow much greater latitude to the imagination! The "problem" is I love doing both…

 
Muriel Vasconcellos
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Define 'creative' Sep 19, 2015

I feel that all my translation work is creative because, even with technical texts, I often have to restructure the grammar to fit the source language.

That said, I try to stay within limits, even when translating creative literature. I pride myself in capturing the author's intent as closely as possible - which can be a creative exercise in itself. For example, false friends aside, a cognate often has a slightly different connotation in the target language and I will spend time loo
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I feel that all my translation work is creative because, even with technical texts, I often have to restructure the grammar to fit the source language.

That said, I try to stay within limits, even when translating creative literature. I pride myself in capturing the author's intent as closely as possible - which can be a creative exercise in itself. For example, false friends aside, a cognate often has a slightly different connotation in the target language and I will spend time looking for another word that more closely nuances the original meaning.
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neilmac
neilmac
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Other Sep 19, 2015

Again, I don't understand the question. To me, translation is by its nature creative.

 
Rolf Kern
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non-creative Sep 19, 2015

Because in my opinion "creative" menas that you write things that are interpretations for which the danger exists that they are wrong or not the sense of the author.

 
Mario Freitas
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Brazil
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No preference, Sep 19, 2015

Teresa Borges wrote:

These last years, I have been translating mostly two types of texts: a) medical devices certificates and IFUs where no creativity whatsoever is allowed and you must be very careful to follow the source document, and b) magazine and newspaper articles (politics, economy, culture...) which are always a test to my creativity and allow much greater latitude to the imagination! The "problem" is I love doing both…


Agree with you, Teresa, but I always try to make sure my translations not look like obvious translations at first sight, that is, I try to rewrite the text as if it were originally written in the target language and not a traslation. So creativity is always a must in my work.

However, considering the standard meaning that seems to be assigned to the term "creative" here, the vast majority of the work I do is non-creative, as it's mostly technical.

[Edited at 2015-09-19 13:19 GMT]


 
José Henrique Lamensdorf
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Brazil
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English to Portuguese
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In memoriam
Exactly Sep 19, 2015

neilmac wrote:

Again, I don't understand the question. To me, translation is by its nature creative.


I prefer to be creative with "non-creative" source texts, i.e. finding a way to communicate it more clearly and naturally in the target language than merely translating words or word sequences and fixing the grammar.

I don't like translating overly "creative" source texts where the writer desperately tries to be funny with an endless series of word plays, double meanings, and forced jokes that are all untranslatable.

This becomes critical in video subtitling, as the source audio will remain there, and the spectator may complain that I owe them a pun, lost in translation. In video dubbing, I can try to keep an even score, by replacing untranslatable puns with new ones in other places.


 
Mario Chavez (X)
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Confusing question Sep 19, 2015

All translation is, by definition, creative: you create or generate a new original.

I don't care what the copyright laws say about translation: they were written by lawyers or unimaginative people with no hands-on experience with translation.

Those buzzwords —creativity, innovation, disruption, transcreation, entrepreneur, etc.—make me sneeze. Some translators seem to have caught a cold with some of these fancy schmancy words and can't seem to talk about translation
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All translation is, by definition, creative: you create or generate a new original.

I don't care what the copyright laws say about translation: they were written by lawyers or unimaginative people with no hands-on experience with translation.

Those buzzwords —creativity, innovation, disruption, transcreation, entrepreneur, etc.—make me sneeze. Some translators seem to have caught a cold with some of these fancy schmancy words and can't seem to talk about translation or writing without peppering their shallow speech with 'creative' or 'disruptive' this or that.
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Mónica Algazi
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Uruguay
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Member (2005)
English to Spanish
Eppur si muove Sep 19, 2015

https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Galileo-Still-it-Moves

And yet creative translation does exist. The translator: a sounding board capable of coming up with a DIFFERENT text/poem/song/story that elicits feelings as identical as possible to the original.


 
Mario Chavez (X)
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It's called a literary translator Sep 20, 2015

Mónica Algazi wrote:

https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Galileo-Still-it-Moves

And yet creative translation does exist. The translator: a sounding board capable of coming up with a DIFFERENT text/poem/song/story that elicits feelings as identical as possible to the original.


If it walks like a duck and moves like a duck…

How often we forget that creativity is inherent to human intelligence, regardless of occupation or profession.


 
Edward Potter
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Non-creative Sep 20, 2015

Just give me a text and let me bang it out into the other language. Give me a well-structured and clear source text, not a nebulous, stomach wrenching, "creative" text. Thank you.

 


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