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Thread poster: Inez Ulrich
Kevin Fulton
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German to English
Proving fraud usually requires proving intent Sep 6, 2019

Inez Ulrich wrote:

Okay, the court order is sent, and I also talked to the company client who assigned this job to the guy. They were as unhappy as I am, as he didn't deliver the translations after 3 weeks, as agreed, but after 2 months. They didn't pay him and have hired another translator for doing the whole job from scratch. So it is clear why he has no money. And it is also clear the other translators didn't get their money, too.

I absolutely consider reporting him for fraud. What do you think?


Although the scoundrel deceived you, other translators and the end client, it would be hard to prove that this individual set out with fraudulent intent, since, if I recall, he made a partial payment to you and delivered a product – useless due to flaws – according to your account. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but I think that in most jurisdictions, non-payment is a civil matter whereas fraud is a crime with certain evidentiary requirements.

I'm very sorry that you're in this situation, but apart from the Mahnbescheid, I suspect your options are limited, unless you want to resort to the "Russisches Inkasso".
 
Inez Ulrich
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Germany
Local time: 22:53
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English to German
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... Sep 6, 2019

Kevin Fulton wrote:

Inez Ulrich wrote:

Okay, the court order is sent, and I also talked to the company client who assigned this job to the guy. They were as unhappy as I am, as he didn't deliver the translations after 3 weeks, as agreed, but after 2 months. They didn't pay him and have hired another translator for doing the whole job from scratch. So it is clear why he has no money. And it is also clear the other translators didn't get their money, too.

I absolutely consider reporting him for fraud. What do you think?


Although the scoundrel deceived you, other translators and the end client, it would be hard to prove that this individual set out with fraudulent intent, since, if I recall, he made a partial payment to you and delivered a product – useless due to flaws – according to your account. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but I think that in most jurisdictions, non-payment is a civil matter whereas fraud is a crime with certain evidentiary requirements.

I'm very sorry that you're in this situation, but apart from the Mahnbescheid, I suspect your options are limited, unless you want to resort to the "Russisches Inkasso".


oh, do you have contacts? Sometimes I'd love to get the "Russisches Inkasso" involved....

I know. But I don't expect I'll ever get my money, so at least I want to cause him some trouble, and if it is only him having to testify at the police. I'm pretty sure he will contradict the Mahnbescheid and there is not much left I can do,
 
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