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Alternatives to Dropbox?
Thread poster: Alain Alameddine
Rolf Keller
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Blue-eyed cloud users should read this Jun 19, 2014

https://web.archive.org/web/20140618165208/http://www.codespaces.com/

 
Steven Segaert
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What's your point? Jun 19, 2014

What is your point, Rolf - that things can go wrong and data can get lost?

I'm sure / I hope that everyone is aware of that.


 
Zhihua Liu
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Baidu Cloud Service Jun 20, 2014

Well, Baidu Yun (cloud) offers 2TB free of charge, you can upload, download or preview files at any time any place.
Just it requires you to install an app in mobile to update to 2 TB.
You may uninstall it while still have the 2TB space, however.


 
Rolf Keller
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Things can go wrong or they can end up with a desaster – an important distinction Jun 20, 2014

Steven Segaert wrote:

What is your point, Rolf - that things can go wrong and data can get lost?

I'm sure / I hope that everyone is aware of that.


But many of us don't behave accordingly. And some of these aren't aware of the fact that their backup strategy only works if nothing goes wrong.


 
Steven Segaert
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True Jun 20, 2014

One should always have a strategy.

Even of the service claims that they already have covered that for you ... https://web.archive.org/web/20140328015048/http://www.codespaces.com/features#backups


 
dericki
dericki
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Copy - pros and cons Jan 27, 2015

I'm wondering how well Copy would work as a solution for a giant shared reference/inspiration folder between polycounters? I'm thinking since it splits the files up, if we have 40 people on a shared reference folder that's 40 gigs big, that's only really using 1gb of space for everyone to have access to it. I'm just trying to picture how that works locally... I assume one would just need to go to the website to see the full list? what would be available on my pc? etc. that kinda thing. I am a bi... See more
I'm wondering how well Copy would work as a solution for a giant shared reference/inspiration folder between polycounters? I'm thinking since it splits the files up, if we have 40 people on a shared reference folder that's 40 gigs big, that's only really using 1gb of space for everyone to have access to it. I'm just trying to picture how that works locally... I assume one would just need to go to the website to see the full list? what would be available on my pc? etc. that kinda thing. I am a bit sceptical on this - so I am using some more exclusive clouds like http://mozy.co.uk/product/features/data-restores-file-access for more important docs.Collapse


 
ATIL KAYHAN
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MozyHome Jan 27, 2015

I have been using Mozy (free personal edition) for at least several years now. I am overall happy with Mozy. I cannot remember the amount of free storage Mozy gives you but it is enough for my purposes. I also started using Dropbox a few months ago. It is difficult now to compare the two because I am new to Dropbox. If you decide to go with Mozy, and if it asks you for a referral code during registration, here is mine: C5KREM

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I have been using Mozy (free personal edition) for at least several years now. I am overall happy with Mozy. I cannot remember the amount of free storage Mozy gives you but it is enough for my purposes. I also started using Dropbox a few months ago. It is difficult now to compare the two because I am new to Dropbox. If you decide to go with Mozy, and if it asks you for a referral code during registration, here is mine: C5KREM

http://mozy.com/product/mozy/personal
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Vladimir Pochinov
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Tresorit May 17, 2015

As a legal and financial translator, I often deal with highly sensitive material. Therefore, I use Tresorit - a secure cloud storage platform. I do use iCloud, Dropbox and Google Drive but for personal use only.

The most popular Tresorit for Business option costs €20.00 / month / user:

- 1TB encrypted storage / user
- Unlimited sharing
- Unlimited version and activity history
- Control editing and sharing of files
- User managemen
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As a legal and financial translator, I often deal with highly sensitive material. Therefore, I use Tresorit - a secure cloud storage platform. I do use iCloud, Dropbox and Google Drive but for personal use only.

The most popular Tresorit for Business option costs €20.00 / month / user:

- 1TB encrypted storage / user
- Unlimited sharing
- Unlimited version and activity history
- Control editing and sharing of files
- User management and access policies
- Deployment support and training
- HIPAA-compliant

Below are three links to resources that might help you decide on the most appropriate cloud storage solution.

Cloud storage buyer's guide for small business: https://tresorit.com/files/smb-cloud-storage-buyers-guide.pdf

Comparison of top cloud storage services: https://tresorit.com/cloud-storage-comparison

Tresorit for Business: https://tresorit.com/business
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Tom in London
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The whole idea May 17, 2015

The concerns about what may happen to your data have already been widely ventilated elsewhere in these thread, so they don't need to be rehearsed again here.

The idea of the "Cloud" may suggest a seductive image to have in your mind - that "up there" - but it isn't a cloud at all. It's stacks of servers in big sheds, located who knows where, such as the Russian Federation (see below) owned by who knows who, and operated by multinationals like Google that specialise in tax avoidanc
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The concerns about what may happen to your data have already been widely ventilated elsewhere in these thread, so they don't need to be rehearsed again here.

The idea of the "Cloud" may suggest a seductive image to have in your mind - that "up there" - but it isn't a cloud at all. It's stacks of servers in big sheds, located who knows where, such as the Russian Federation (see below) owned by who knows who, and operated by multinationals like Google that specialise in tax avoidance.

The basic idea of the "Cloud" is to get money out of you, all the time, as you find that you need more and more space, for the rest of your life on this Earth. If you ever stop (say, you suddenly have a financial crisis and can't keep paying your bills) you lose your data.

As a translator I watch my overheads very carefully; I particularly dislike relying on regular monthly payments. These really mount up over the years. That's the main reason why I'm staying away from the "Cloud".

[Edited at 2015-05-17 22:33 GMT]
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Vladimir Pochinov
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@Tom in London: Tresorit for Business is much more than cloud storage per se May 17, 2015

Proven security

We offered $50,000 if someone hacks our system. 1000 hackers from 49 countries tried, but no one succeeded.

Granular access levels

Decide if your shared documents can be copied, emailed, printed, shared or screenshotted.

Activity and version history

See what your collaborators are up to. Access and roll back to any document’s previous versions.

[Edited at 2015-05-17 22:24 GMT]


 
Tom in London
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Done it May 17, 2015

Vladimir Pochinov wrote:

Proven security

We offered $50,000 if someone hacks our system. 1000 hackers from 49 countries tried, but no one succeeded.


Yet.

Decide if your shared documents can be copied, emailed, printed, shared or screenshotted


I've been deciding that for years. Nothing new in that. And I have control.

See what your collaborators are up to
.

You mean, spy on them, see if they're working and if they *are* working, if they're working on your stuff or on something else, etc. Steal their glossaries while you're at it. A new and very insidious form of control. No thanks! I took up translating because I was tired of having people looking over my shoulder monitoring what I was doing.

Access and roll back to any document’s previous versions.


I've been doing that for years. Nothing new in that. And I have control.

[Edited at 2015-05-17 22:37 GMT]


 
Michael Beijer
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absolute nonsense May 17, 2015

Tom in London wrote:

The concerns about what may happen to your data have already been widely ventilated elsewhere in these thread, so they don't need to be rehearsed again here.

The idea of the "Cloud" may suggest a seductive image to have in your mind - that "up there" - but it isn't a cloud at all. It's stacks of servers in big sheds, located who knows where, such as the Russian Federation (see below) owned by who knows who, and operated by multinationals like Google that specialise in tax avoidance.

The basic idea of the "Cloud" is to get money out of you, all the time, as you find that you need more and more space, for the rest of your life on this Earth. If you ever stop (say, you suddenly have a financial crisis and can't keep paying your bills) you lose your data.

As a translator I watch my overheads very carefully; I particularly dislike relying on regular monthly payments. These really mount up over the years. That's the main reason why I'm staying away from the "Cloud".

[Edited at 2015-05-17 22:33 GMT]

Actually, "the basic idea of the cloud" is merely that you pay someone to store your data online.

"The main reason" you don't use cloud storage is price? Wow, you could have fooled me with all your other posts


 
Tom in London
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Focus May 18, 2015

Michael Beijer wrote:

....Wow, you could have fooled me with all your other posts


Can we focus on to the topic pls?

[Edited at 2015-05-18 08:11 GMT]


 
Rolf Keller
Rolf Keller
Germany
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proofs vs. claims May 18, 2015

Vladimir Pochinov wrote:

We offered $50,000 if someone hacks our system. 1000 hackers from 49 countries tried, but no one succeeded.


Let's suppose somebody tried & succeeded. Would that fact have been published?

And BTW, what about non-hackers like software developers, employees, Evil Maids, Romeo agents, NSA-like organisations, ...


 
Michael Beijer
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… irrational reasons to fear technology May 18, 2015

Tom in London wrote:

Michael Beijer wrote:

....Wow, you could have fooled me with all your other posts


Can we focus on to the topic pls?

[Edited at 2015-05-18 08:11 GMT]


By all means.

Incidentally, you’re the one who started your usual Luddite scaremongering, and veered off-topic, not me. The OP asked for "Alternatives to Dropbox?", not irrational reasons to fear technology. How bout starting your own thread aimed at warning us all of the awful dangers of "The Cloud" [said with spooky ghoul voice].

Michael


 
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