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Dan Lucas  Identity Verified
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Starting to go off on a tangent Feb 22, 2015

Angie Garbarino wrote:
but now no, you are showing discrimination about nationality now.
NO... NO... and NO

And we are entering areas that are only tangentially related to the original poster's question about setting up as a freelancer in Italy.

It may be worth leaving the thread here rather than diverting it into a potentially noisy discussion about the characteristics of the Italian people, a discussion that I'm pretty sure would do nothing to change the opinions that the respective participants have already formed.

Regards
Dan


 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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Yes Feb 22, 2015

Dan Lucas wrote:

Angie Garbarino wrote:
but now no, you are showing discrimination about nationality now.
NO... NO... and NO

And we are entering areas that are only tangentially related to the original poster's question about setting up as a freelancer in Italy.

It may be worth leaving the thread here rather than diverting it into a potentially noisy discussion about the characteristics of the Italian people, a discussion that I'm pretty sure would do nothing to change the opinions that the respective participants have already formed.

Regards
Dan


But there things that must not be said... and discrimination about nationality is one of them, so as Italian I feel very disappointed and I leave.

thanks


 

Dan Lucas  Identity Verified
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No country is without its strengths and weaknesses Feb 22, 2015

Angie Garbarino wrote:
so as Italian I feel very disappointed and I leave.

Angie, I think that expatriates everywhere have complex relationships with "their" countries, often with a pronounced love/hate element. For example my feelings for Japan and the Japanese are certainly complicated and I have no doubt that when Italians meet up in the UK they spend a certain amount of time grumbling together about life in Britain - and that's natural.

Whatever the merits of Tom's specific comments a couple of posts ago, it is clear from his other remarks earlier in this thread that he also has a deep affection and admiration for many aspects of Italian life and culture.

Regards
Dan


 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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Sorry Feb 22, 2015

The word "everyone" used is discrimination about people, words have their meanings.

 

Tom in London
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Thanks Dan Feb 22, 2015

Dan Lucas wrote:

Whatever the merits of Tom's specific comments a couple of posts ago, it is clear from his other remarks earlier in this thread that he also has a deep affection and admiration for many aspects of Italian life and culture.

Regards
Dan


Of course.


 

P.L.F.Persio  Identity Verified
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Pot, kettle, black... Feb 23, 2015

Oh really?

Angie, you don't think the sentence below (see: http://www.proz.com/forum/italian/281999-consigli_imposte_per_traduttore_in_italia-page2.html) is a grossly generalised statement, do you?

Praticamente tasse tipo Danimarca con servizi scadentissimi. (Taxes as high as in Denmark for abysmal services.)

Angie Garbarino wrote:

There also many honest people in Italy,I cannot accept this statement, as long as we discuss the fiscal system and other political related issues, ok.. but now no, you are showing discrimination about nationality now.

NO... NO... and NO



[Edited at 2015-02-22 13:36 GMT]


I don't like Italy, in fact, I dislike it intensely; I could even hate it, should I be bothered enough to... But there's no denying that the overall quality of services there is not that awful. Not always, not everywhere.

George, if you are to go to Italy, brace yourself. Be prepared, be aware, be careful but don't be scared.

You may even be in for some pleasant surprises. Good luck!


 

Tom in London
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Everything but Feb 23, 2015

missdutch wrote:

You may even be in for some pleasant surprises. Good luck!


You will like everything *except the bureaucracy, which is a form of torture*. If Italy could get this sorted out it would be the best country in the world. I've sometimes thought that if the day-to-day administration of Italy (but not anything else) could be outsourced to neighbouring Switzerland, the perfect society would have been achieved. Goethe's observation that "Italy is a paradise inhabited by devils" could finally be set aside.

[Edited at 2015-02-23 10:13 GMT]


 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
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No I dont Feb 23, 2015

missdutch wrote:

Oh really?

Angie, you don't think the sentence below (see: http://www.proz.com/forum/italian/281999-consigli_imposte_per_traduttore_in_italia-page2.html) is a grossly generalised statement, do you?

Praticamente tasse tipo Danimarca con servizi scadentissimi. (Taxes as high as in Denmark for abysmal services.)



Moreover scadentissimi is very poor NOT abysmal, and I know them very well. Sorry if you do not agree, I just do not agree with that statement about Italians.

Generalization is not discrimination.


For the rest I cannot reply because I do not understand your post.





[Edited at 2015-02-23 17:01 GMT]


 
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Elena Lezheva
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taxation & other costs involved in setting up in Italy Feb 25, 2015

Hello George,

I have not read all the answers above. They might have already answered your questions. However, I would like to share with you a response to similar questions given by a professional accountant.

I translated her response into English below.

You have to register as a VAT-payer and communicate a code of a TRANSLATOR as your activity. Then

- you will be charged VAT at 22% rate
- you will have to make a certain reserve that
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Hello George,

I have not read all the answers above. They might have already answered your questions. However, I would like to share with you a response to similar questions given by a professional accountant.

I translated her response into English below.

You have to register as a VAT-payer and communicate a code of a TRANSLATOR as your activity. Then

- you will be charged VAT at 22% rate
- you will have to make a certain reserve that is called "ritenuta d'acconto" of 20% of your income
- you will have to maintain simplified accounting with an application of so-called "regime di tassazione a scaglioni irpef" that provied for paying a lieast 23% of the tax irpef
- you will need to pay VAT every quarther respecting the following deadlines 16/5 - 20/8 - 16/11/ - 16/5
- IRAP will apply also (In LOMBARDIA DEL 3,90% from net earnings subject to IRAP)
- you will be a subject to sector studies (statistics used by the Italian equivalent of the IRS to estimate the income of a business)

Hope it was at least somewhat helpful.

Elena
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Cecilia Civetta  Identity Verified
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Ok but... Feb 25, 2015

Elena,
let me add 30% INPS (which applies to Gross total income!)

Elena Lezheva wrote:

Hello George,

I have not read all the answers above. They might have already answered your questions. However, I would like to share with you a response to similar questions given by a professional accountant.

I translated her response into English below.

You have to register as a VAT-payer and communicate a code of a TRANSLATOR as your activity. Then

- you will be charged VAT at 22% rate
- you will have to make a certain reserve that is called "ritenuta d'acconto" of 20% of your income
- you will have to maintain simplified accounting with an application of so-called "regime di tassazione a scaglioni irpef" that provied for paying a lieast 23% of the tax irpef
- you will need to pay VAT every quarther respecting the following deadlines 16/5 - 20/8 - 16/11/ - 16/5
- IRAP will apply also (In LOMBARDIA DEL 3,90% from net earnings subject to IRAP)
- you will be a subject to sector studies (statistics used by the Italian equivalent of the IRS to estimate the income of a business)

Hope it was at least somewhat helpful.

Elena


 
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