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megobrebo, Oct 22, 2004

Maya,)) chemi kompetencia, mgoni zustad isetivea, rogoriv tkveni! me rom iuridiul kompaniashi vmushaob, arapers nishnavs! Maya da sxva kolegebo (xom ar davemgvane ert pirovnebas? ), zalian gtxovt, gamotkvit tkveni azri xmamagla da ar mogeridot! ar meckineba araperi!!! es xom chveni saerto sakmea! bavshvs gepicebit, zalian vapaseb ninos shenishvnebs, miuxedavad imisa,... See more
Maya,)) chemi kompetencia, mgoni zustad isetivea, rogoriv tkveni! me rom iuridiul kompaniashi vmushaob, arapers nishnavs! Maya da sxva kolegebo (xom ar davemgvane ert pirovnebas? ), zalian gtxovt, gamotkvit tkveni azri xmamagla da ar mogeridot! ar meckineba araperi!!! es xom chveni saerto sakmea! bavshvs gepicebit, zalian vapaseb ninos shenishvnebs, miuxedavad imisa, rom xshirad ar vetanxmebi. imitom, rom sanam ar davetanxmebi (roca ase xdeba), vpikrob, ikneb martalia. amdenad, rac meti sacinaagmdego itkmeba, mit uketesi!!! "ase mgonia me", rogorc b-ni data itkoda!
rac sheexeba cesdebas. unamusod gatkuebdit akamde, tu ipikret, rom es cesdeba haeridan davcere! ar mixsenebia akamde da ar ipikrot, rom srulad chemi dacerilia. movkeke neti da ramdenime msgavsi cesdebis gadamushavebit shevadgine. esec kidev erti "chochi" chems kompetencias!))
da bolos. modit cota davicadot. axla clamde, tu nebas momcemt, kidev erti Powwow makvs dagegmili, ogond ukve chems opisshi. torem, pirveli ise gamovida, rom organizatori me vikavi da am dros Maya da Lela "shevacuxet". sindisac kargi sakonelia! amitom, shemdegi shexvedra (Powwow) "chemzea".

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shexvedris shesaxeb Oct 23, 2004

vpiqrob, ar aris aucilebeli chvens shexvedras aucileblad powwpw ecodos, isedac shegvidzlia shexvedra, tumca powwow-s gameorebis ideac ar aris cudi. rac sheexeba "shecuxebas", es srulebitac ar aris ase - sinamdvileshi, chven absoluturad ar vcuxdebit imit, rom am saqmeze shevikribebit - masinc xom unda shevikribot sadme, ofisis datmoba ki,chveni organizaciisatvis problema ki ara, piriqit, misasalmebelicaa. Ase rom, Levan, shegvidzlia chventanac shevikribot da shentanac, tu erti shexvedra ar dagvak... See more
vpiqrob, ar aris aucilebeli chvens shexvedras aucileblad powwpw ecodos, isedac shegvidzlia shexvedra, tumca powwow-s gameorebis ideac ar aris cudi. rac sheexeba "shecuxebas", es srulebitac ar aris ase - sinamdvileshi, chven absoluturad ar vcuxdebit imit, rom am saqmeze shevikribebit - masinc xom unda shevikribot sadme, ofisis datmoba ki,chveni organizaciisatvis problema ki ara, piriqit, misasalmebelicaa. Ase rom, Levan, shegvidzlia chventanac shevikribot da shentanac, tu erti shexvedra ar dagvakmakofilebs manamde ki, radgan amis ar geshinia, mcare kritikisatvis movemzadebit kvela, apa ra gegona))))Collapse


 

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getanhmebit, rom shehvedra aucilebelia. tanac sheidzleba erti ar ikos sakmarisi. shevhvdet, ganvihilot cesdeba da tu rame ver gavarkviet, iuridiuli konsultaciebistvis shegvidzlia mivmartot 'ahalgazrda iuristebis asociaciasac' (krilovis kuchaze) sadac kvela kithvaze gagvcemen pasuhs. an ikneb vinme tkvengans hkavs kompetenturi iuristi, romelic garkveul rchevebs mogvcems.

 

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aucilebloba araa Oct 23, 2004

mivmartot axalgazrda iuristta asociacias. kompania, romelshic me vmushaob, gacilebit upro kvalipiciuria, vidre es asociacia. mit umetes, am organizaciis politizebulobis gatvaliscinebit. me piradad, amis kategoriuli cinaagmdegi var.

 

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damateba zemo cerilze Oct 24, 2004

megobrebo,

chemi azrit, mtavaria propesiul sakitxebze movilaparakot. rac sheexeba shesazlo gaurkvevel iuridiul/samartlebriv sakitxebs, imedi makvs "chemi" kompania dagvexmareba mat garkvevashi. zemot kategoriuli azri imitom gamovtkvi, rom ar minda chveni gaertianeba kidev ert "politizebul" "NGO"-d ikces. chemi azrit, es unda ikos cminda propesiuli gaertianeba. shexvedrisas uked gavarkvevt ertmanetis azrebs, torem porumi, tradiciulad, zustad ver gadmoscems azrebs da emociebs. modit 1
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megobrebo,

chemi azrit, mtavaria propesiul sakitxebze movilaparakot. rac sheexeba shesazlo gaurkvevel iuridiul/samartlebriv sakitxebs, imedi makvs "chemi" kompania dagvexmareba mat garkvevashi. zemot kategoriuli azri imitom gamovtkvi, rom ar minda chveni gaertianeba kidev ert "politizebul" "NGO"-d ikces. chemi azrit, es unda ikos cminda propesiuli gaertianeba. shexvedrisas uked gavarkvevt ertmanetis azrebs, torem porumi, tradiciulad, zustad ver gadmoscems azrebs da emociebs. modit 1 kvira davicadot - davelodot komentarebs azeri da im kartveli kolegebisgan, vinc, shesazloa, piradad ver daescros chvens shexvedras da shemdgom davtkvat shexvedra.

misagebia?

levani
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shexvedra Oct 29, 2004

Levan Namoradze wrote:

megobrebo,

chemi azrit, mtavaria propesiul sakitxebze movilaparakot. rac sheexeba shesazlo gaurkvevel iuridiul/samartlebriv sakitxebs, imedi makvs "chemi" kompania dagvexmareba mat garkvevashi. zemot kategoriuli azri imitom gamovtkvi, rom ar minda chveni gaertianeba kidev ert "politizebul" "NGO"-d ikces. chemi azrit, es unda ikos cminda propesiuli gaertianeba. shexvedrisas uked gavarkvevt ertmanetis azrebs, torem porumi, tradiciulad, zustad ver gadmoscems azrebs da emociebs. modit 1 kvira davicadot - davelodot komentarebs azeri da im kartveli kolegebisgan, vinc, shesazloa, piradad ver daescros chvens shexvedras da shemdgom davtkvat shexvedra.

misagebia?

levani


Levan,
chemtvis kvelaferi misagebia. shevxvdet, rodesac chatvli, rom mzad vart.
Maya


 

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megobrebo, Oct 29, 2004

simartle gitxrat, mec vpikrob, rom cesdebis proektis gasarchevad shexvedra ajobebda. ubralod, velodebi komentarebs azeri kolegebisgan, radgan, savaraudod, isini chamosvlas ver shezleben. dges mivcer cerils Shains.

 

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zvirpaso megobrebo, Nov 2, 2004

dges mivige komentarebi chveni azeri kolegebisgan. gtavazobt mat zust asls:

"Article 1 – It probably is a good idea to change the word
“persons” to “legal entities and individuals”. (The
words "translator" (“interpreter”) is used herein in its wider
meaning and include persons)
This will make it clearer that interested organizations and companies also can
participate.

Article 2 – Does it me
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dges mivige komentarebi chveni azeri kolegebisgan. gtavazobt mat zust asls:

"Article 1 – It probably is a good idea to change the word
“persons” to “legal entities and individuals”. (The
words "translator" (“interpreter”) is used herein in its wider
meaning and include persons)
This will make it clearer that interested organizations and companies also can
participate.

Article 2 – Does it mean that we have to do in Baku is establish the
Azerbaijani branch of the ATICL with statutory seat in Tbilisi? That probably
would make sense. The branch would then be acting as the ATICL representative in
Azerbaijan.

Article 8 and 9 – Can organizations become regular members or only
freelance translators? And I also think we should make article 9 somewhat
clearer. The wording “but not fully qualified” is little confusing
unless we specify which requirements regular members need to meet."

gaurkvevel nishnebs nu miakcevt did kuradgebas - isini umetesad tires da brchkalebs agnishnavs.
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chemi azri komentarze Nov 2, 2004

metad sasargeblo komentarebia, chemi azrit ra tkma unda. mixaria, rom mat scorad gaiges tbilisshi "gaertianebis" "shtab-binis" motavseba. amas adasturebs Sain-is cerilis boloc:

"Otherwise, the text of the bylaws can remain unchanged.

I strongly hope that we will reach our goals in protection of the rights of translators in the South Caucasus. As concerns the participation of Armenian translators, they are surely welcome, no objections on our side. I personally stand fo
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metad sasargeblo komentarebia, chemi azrit ra tkma unda. mixaria, rom mat scorad gaiges tbilisshi "gaertianebis" "shtab-binis" motavseba. amas adasturebs Sain-is cerilis boloc:

"Otherwise, the text of the bylaws can remain unchanged.

I strongly hope that we will reach our goals in protection of the rights of translators in the South Caucasus. As concerns the participation of Armenian translators, they are surely welcome, no objections on our side. I personally stand for peace settlement of all conflicts and have Armenian friends in Moscow and in Turkey. And it's very good that the headquarters will be placed in Tbilisi, because then Armenian translators would also have opportunities to join."

modit axla kvela ertad gadavckvitot, rodis da sad shevxvdet.

veli tkvens pasuxebs.

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Cerili kvelas, Nov 2, 2004

Cinasar gixdit bodishs diskusiashi mogvianebit chartvisatvis, tumca didi interesit vecnobodi tqvens mosazrebebs.

Shexvedris idea misasalmebelia, magram chemi azrit proeqtis ganxilva ar unda amoicuros mxolod shexvedrit, da unda gagrdzeldes manam, sanam ar mivigebt kvela tarjimnis tanxmobas mis kvela punqtan dakavshirebit. Mitumetes, rom dgeisatvis ase partod aris migebuli magalitad, internet-konferenciebi da sxva gonisdziebebi.

Mimachnia, rom proeqti namdvilad sachiroeb
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Cinasar gixdit bodishs diskusiashi mogvianebit chartvisatvis, tumca didi interesit vecnobodi tqvens mosazrebebs.

Shexvedris idea misasalmebelia, magram chemi azrit proeqtis ganxilva ar unda amoicuros mxolod shexvedrit, da unda gagrdzeldes manam, sanam ar mivigebt kvela tarjimnis tanxmobas mis kvela punqtan dakavshirebit. Mitumetes, rom dgeisatvis ase partod aris migebuli magalitad, internet-konferenciebi da sxva gonisdziebebi.

Mimachnia, rom proeqti namdvilad sachiroebs upro detalur ganxilvas, magram albad ... el. postis sashualebit, radgan miuxedavad azrta gaziarebis survilisa proeqtis ganxilvis kvela monacilestan, albad ar aris sachiro amis gaketeba moxdes saxalxod. Amitom vikavebdi aqamde tavs. Ase magalitad, levani ambobs, rom X kargi adamiania, da echvi ar mepareba mis natqvamshi, radgan darcmunebuli var rom igi tavad aris kargi adamiani, magram chven ar gvimcjelia dacvrilebit X saagentosa da misi miznebis shesaxeb. Aris kidev asociaciasa da mastan dakavshirebuli sxva mnishvnelovani sakitxebi, romelta ertad, magram ara sajarod, ganxilva sasargeblo iqneba kvela chvenganisatvis.

Ar aris gamoricxuli, rom tvit saqartveloshi mkopi zogierti qartveli tarjimani ver moaxerxebs shexvedraze dascrebas sxvadasxva obieqturi tu subieqturi mizezisa gamo - verc amjerad da albad verc momavalshi. da tu asociacia moicavs sxva kavkasiur qveknebsac, kidev ufro scori iqneba imis gancxadeba, rom kvela ver moaxerxebs xolme baqos, erevansa da tbiliss shoris mgzavrobas. garda amisa zogierti qartveli tarjimani (manana, me da sxvebi) (amjerad) fizikurad ar imkopeba saqartveloshi, da miuxedavad didi survilisa da interesisa, ver miigebs monacileobas shexvedrashi. Amitom mimachnia, rom kvelas unda mieces tanabari sashualeba monacileoba miigos asociacaiis dapudznebis proeqtis ganxilvashi, risi gaketebac sheidzleba internetit - rogorc zemot avgnishne, el.postis sashualebit.

Me momxre var qartvel, kavkasiel da saertod kvela tarjimanta uplebebis dacvisa, da mati saerto ketildgeobisa. Scored amis gamo gadavckvite magalitad, tbilisshi tqventan shexvedra.

Didad vapaseb levanis iniciativas da im dzalisxmevas, romelic man gascia am saqmisatvis da kvlavac gascevs, magram mjera, rom sachiroa meti dro daetmos proeqtis detalur ganxilvas - tumca ara sajarod, aramed chvens shoris, rata mivagciot kvela chenganisatvis sasurvel da sasargeblo shedegs, da ara isets, romlisaganac tavis aridebas vamjobinebdit.
Chemi mosazreba aseti iqneboda, kvelam viqoniiot tvitoeuli chventaganis el.postis misamartebis sia da cirkularis saxit kvelas gavugzavnot detaluri, asociaciastan dakavshirebuli profesiuli komentarebi (saqebari iqneba tu kritikuli).

sauketeso survilebit,
giuli
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megobrebo da kolegebo, Nov 2, 2004

absoluturad vetanxmebi k-ni giulis zemot mocemul cerils da mis suliskvetebas.

mec scored amistvis camovicke tkventan am temaze saubari, rom mogvegcia uketesi pirobebistvsis sakartveloshi momushave tarjimnebisatvis. amastan, tkveni tandascrebit, chvenma azerma stumarma gamotkva survili "gaertianebis" gapartoebis taobaze. bunebrivad carmoishva idea, rom tu moxdeboda kartveli da azeri tarjimnebis gaertianeba, logikuri ikneboda mogvecva kavkasiac, anu chveni meore mezobelic.

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absoluturad vetanxmebi k-ni giulis zemot mocemul cerils da mis suliskvetebas.

mec scored amistvis camovicke tkventan am temaze saubari, rom mogvegcia uketesi pirobebistvsis sakartveloshi momushave tarjimnebisatvis. amastan, tkveni tandascrebit, chvenma azerma stumarma gamotkva survili "gaertianebis" gapartoebis taobaze. bunebrivad carmoishva idea, rom tu moxdeboda kartveli da azeri tarjimnebis gaertianeba, logikuri ikneboda mogvecva kavkasiac, anu chveni meore mezobelic.

amis shemdgom, davicket tkventvis cnobili mushaobac. me mgoni, maksimalurad gacvdidit mtel inpormacias, azer kolegastan mimoceris chatvlit. paralelurad, porumze gavxseni specialuri tema agnishnul sakitxze.

ertad-erti, rashic ver davetanxmebi k-n giulis ( ), aris is, rom am sakitxis gajanjleba ar mimachnia martebulad, gamomdinare sakartveloshi arsebuli realuri mdgomareobidan. sakartveloshi mcxovrebni kargad vicnobt am situacias. iseve, rogorc kvela tkvengani, mec ramdenime celia vpikrob aset gaertianebaze. araerti azri momsvlia, iseve, rogorc tkven. amastan, mimachnia, rom gaertianebis cesdebis shinaars (mit umetes, roca es cesdeba tipiuria da rogorc zemot davcere, carmoadgens ramdenime sxva saertashoriso gaertianebis cesdebebis nazavs) didi mnishvneloba ar unda hkondes.

mtavaria, rom sakmes tavi movabat!

tu chveni cesdeba, chemtvis bundovani mizezebis gamo, miugebeli agmochndeba romelime chveni kolegistvis, ras vizamt. me, simartle gitxrat, namdvilad ar gamaxarebs es pakti. tumca, tavs imit davimshvideb, rom sabednierod, arasamtavrobo organizaciebis "xibli" scored isaa, rom mati dapuzneba araa shezguduli.

pativiscemit,

levani

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shexvedris shesaxeb Nov 3, 2004

mogesalmebit kvelas

vpiqrob, q-ni Giuli martalia - chveni shexvedrit ar unda dasruldes kvelaperi. ra tqma unda, Levanis iniciativa unda ganxorcieldes da, ufro metic, es saqme ise unda mogvardes, rom associacia sicocxlisunariani ikos. Rac sheexeba shexvedraze proeqtis sajarod ganxilvas, vpiqrob imisi sashishroeba namdvilad ar arsebobs, rom saqartvelos kvela tarjomani mogvackdeba (arc ki vici es kargia tu cudi), radgan
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mogesalmebit kvelas

vpiqrob, q-ni Giuli martalia - chveni shexvedrit ar unda dasruldes kvelaperi. ra tqma unda, Levanis iniciativa unda ganxorcieldes da, ufro metic, es saqme ise unda mogvardes, rom associacia sicocxlisunariani ikos. Rac sheexeba shexvedraze proeqtis sajarod ganxilvas, vpiqrob imisi sashishroeba namdvilad ar arsebobs, rom saqartvelos kvela tarjomani mogvackdeba (arc ki vici es kargia tu cudi), radgan jerjerobit mxolod ramodenime chventagani ichens dainteresebas.

da kidev erTi ram cesdebasTan dakavshirebit. sheidzleba vcdebi, magram, chemi azrit, rogorc cesi, cesdebashi saqmianobebisa da mimartulebebis dakonkreteba ar xdeba. igi mxolod zogad principebs asaxavs. ara mgonia misi shemushaveba gagvichirdes, mitumetes, rom Levanma ukve gaaketa saqmis naxevarze meti cesdebis samusho variantis shemotavazebit. vpiqrob, am etapze mtavaria asociaciis dafuZneba, shemdeg ki misi konkretuli saqmianobebis gansaZrvra iqneba sachiro.

rac sheexeba saqartvelos garet mkof kolegebs, amastan dakavshirebit erti cinadadeba maqvs:

chvens ofisshi Internet-shi chartuli 9 kompiuteria. shegvidzlia davtqvat xelsakreli dro da aq shevikribot isini, vinc Tbilisshi vart, xolo amerikashi, inglisshi, bakoshi da sxvagan mkof kolegebtan kavshiri chat-it gveqneba. ra azris xart amaze?


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dagvianebuli mosazreba Nov 3, 2004

megobrebo,

mivesalebi asociaciis sheqmnis ideas, vafaseb im zalisxmevas romelic tqven gaswiet, wesdebis sheqmnasa da ganxilvaze. bodishs vixdi rom gvian chaverte diskusiashi, radgan me didi gamocdileba ar maqvs aseT saqmianobaSi.

me vfiqrob, upro mnishvnelovania movifiqrot asociacia ra tipis saqmianobas unda axorcielebdes da shemovitanot winadabebi wesdebashi damatebebze. radgan me vfiqrob rom wesdebis ert-erti mnishvnelovani datvirtva aris konkretuli saqmianobis ufleba
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megobrebo,

mivesalebi asociaciis sheqmnis ideas, vafaseb im zalisxmevas romelic tqven gaswiet, wesdebis sheqmnasa da ganxilvaze. bodishs vixdi rom gvian chaverte diskusiashi, radgan me didi gamocdileba ar maqvs aseT saqmianobaSi.

me vfiqrob, upro mnishvnelovania movifiqrot asociacia ra tipis saqmianobas unda axorcielebdes da shemovitanot winadabebi wesdebashi damatebebze. radgan me vfiqrob rom wesdebis ert-erti mnishvnelovani datvirtva aris konkretuli saqmianobis ufleba misces asociaicias. anu, magaliTad Tu chven vapirebt avtomobilebis gamoshvebas (magalitia) wesdeba amis sashualebas unda izleodes.

garda amisa, vfiqrob rom ar aris aucilebeli kavkasieri enebis absoluruad yvela tarjimani pirvelive dges gaertiandes am asociaciashi, sheizleba zogierti mogvianebit gaertiandes, saertod ar gaertiandes anda gaertiandes romelime sxva (analogiur) asociaciashi.
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sanam shevxvdebodet Nov 4, 2004

Lela Pavliashvili wrote:
...me vfiqrob, upro mnishvnelovania movifiqrot asociacia ra tipis saqmianobas unda axorcielebdes da shemovitanot winadabebi wesdebashi damatebebze. radgan me vfiqrob rom wesdebis ert-erti mnishvnelovani datvirtva aris konkretuli saqmianobis ufleba misces asociaicias. anu, magaliTad Tu chven vapirebt avtomobilebis gamoshvebas (magalitia) wesdeba amis sashualebas unda izleodes....


cesdebaSi (Article 4-6) gatvaliscinebulia seminarebis da trainingebis chatareba; poligrafiuli (cignebi, bukletebi, Jurnal-gazetebi) da eleqtronuli masalebis gamoqveyneba; shexvedrebis, konferenciebisa da msgavsi gonisZiebebis mockoba; xelshekrulebebis dadeba (targmanebtan dakavSirebit da sxva); asociaciis popularizacia da urtiertobebis damkareba.

aq aseve gartvaliscinebulia (ra tqma unda garkveuli normativebis dacvit) gaices sertifikatebi da saavtoro uflebebi; aseve verification credentials and authorization of translators (sakmarisia amisatvis Article 4 g, h ? specialurad xom ar chavamatot punqti?)

xom ara gaqvt vinmes raime axali idea, rasac cesdebis arsebuli varianti ar itvaliscinebs?

rac sheexeba Membership-s, vetanxmebi Sains, dasazustebelia zogierti ram, magram vpiqrob, am sakitxs shexvedrazec iolad movagvarebt.

cota gadatvirtuli mechveneba "Governing Bodies", magram es mxolod chemi arakompetenturi subieqturi azria. sheidzleba asec sjobdes.

Maya


 

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proektis ganxilvastan dakavshirebit Nov 9, 2004

Dr. Giuli Kvrivishvili wrote:
... Chemi mosazreba aseti iqneboda, kvelam viqoniiot tvitoeuli chventaganis el.postis misamartebis sia da cirkularis saxit kvelas gavugzavnot detaluri, asociaciastan dakavshirebuli profesiuli komentarebi (saqebari iqneba tu kritikuli).

sauketeso survilebit,
giuli

Chemi sakontaqto misamartebia:
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ketili survilebit,
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