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Merab Dekano  Identity Verified
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I see Nov 16, 2018

Michael Beijer wrote:

Merab Dekano wrote:

Michael Beijer wrote:

I would also recommend CafeTran above memoQ these days, but CafeTran is a special kind of tool, and perhaps better suited for the tinkerer.



I tried to play around with CafeTran today. I managed to set up a couple of test projects, translate some files, deal with tags, etc. I created a source file with “heavy” formatting issues, images, footnotes, endnotes, etc. CafeTran dealt with it very well (even though I don’t really like the interface; too “messy” and it doesn’t optimise the screen surface, in my opinion. I know, you can play with screen configuration, but still.

One thing I cannot get my head around is this “total recall” vs “project TM” thing. Being “old school” guy, I just exported my DVX TM in tmx format (+160MB) and tried to link it to a test project. Not only CafeTran stopped, but also my laptop did (and my laptop is a good one: i7, 16GB RAM, SSD, etc. It’s a gaming laptop, even though I never “game”). I couldn’t find CafeTran in processes to kill it either. Juts had to push and hold the reset button.

It’s clear I am doing something wrong, but my mind functions with one large TM in mind, not with project-based TMs that somehow “dwell” in a “total recall” world, which is total mystery to me.

In other words, I cannot use the tool, not for now.


[Edited at 2018-11-16 20:23 GMT]


Yeah, instead of with a special format of its own, CafeTran works directly with TMXs. However, it cannot handle biggish ones very well, even on super-powered computers with 32GB of RAM. In that case, it's best to import these into a Total Recall database (= SQLite-based) and then let CafeTran extract only the segments that are relevant to your current project into a temporary Total Recall TM.



Thanks, Michael! I see now. Just one curiosity; where is that “total recall” file usually located? Can you save it any folder you decide? Can you “take it with you” when you are out or work on another machine? Can you share it with other CAT tools?

Those are too many questions, but they point to one fear; will I be able to have all my work in one (or just a few) TM files (or “total recall” files for that matter)?


 

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Some answers Nov 16, 2018

Hello Merab,

- In Edit > Preferences > Memory, assign more memory to CafeTran out of your 32GB RAM. This is one of the first things you need to adjust. In Help > About, CafeTran displays the current usage. CafeTran uses RAM for its memory operations (except for Total Recall, which is database based), and assigns itself only 1024 MB by default, so it obviously choke on a biggish TMX.

- Total Recall is an advanced feature for storing thousands/millions of segments into a
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Hello Merab,

- In Edit > Preferences > Memory, assign more memory to CafeTran out of your 32GB RAM. This is one of the first things you need to adjust. In Help > About, CafeTran displays the current usage. CafeTran uses RAM for its memory operations (except for Total Recall, which is database based), and assigns itself only 1024 MB by default, so it obviously choke on a biggish TMX.

- Total Recall is an advanced feature for storing thousands/millions of segments into a local offline database on your computer, and recalling only the relevant segments, thus creating a much smaller TMX for the job. This, on top of your Project TM and any ad-hoc client TM.

It is explained in the official knowledge base: https://cafetran.freshdesk.com/support/solutions

If you are just trying out the tool, I suggest you don't bother with TR for now (as I said, it is an advanced feature), just assign more RAM to CT and open your TMX files as you did. If you open a TM as read-only (for reference), you can select "Preliminary Memory Matching", it processes it against the project segments at the beginning of the project, making match operations much quicker once it completes its processing (but you can start working right away).

- Here's my own attempt at explaining how to quickly set CafeTran to fit your own needs (appearance, layout, etc.) : https://github.com/idimitriadis0/TheCafeTranFiles/wiki/6-Getting-comfortable

To stop further hijacking this thread which is about DVX4, I suggest a new forum post is created in the CafeTran section of this forum.

Jean

[Edited at 2018-11-16 23:39 GMT]
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Merab Dekano  Identity Verified
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Thank you! Nov 17, 2018

Jean Dimitriadis wrote:

Hello Merab,

- In Edit > Preferences > Memory, assign more memory to CafeTran out of your 32GB RAM. This is one of the first things you need to adjust. In Help > About, CafeTran displays the current usage. CafeTran uses RAM for its memory operations (except for Total Recall, which is database based), and assigns itself only 1024 MB by default, so it obviously choke on a biggish TMX.

- Total Recall is an advanced feature for storing thousands/millions of segments into a local offline database on your computer, and recalling only the relevant segments, thus creating a much smaller TMX for the job. This, on top of your Project TM and any ad-hoc client TM.

It is explained in the official knowledge base: https://cafetran.freshdesk.com/support/solutions

If you are just trying out the tool, I suggest you don't bother with TR for now (as I said, it is an advanced feature), just assign more RAM to CT and open your TMX files as you did. If you open a TM as read-only (for reference), you can select "Preliminary Memory Matching", it processes it against the project segments at the beginning of the project, making match operations much quicker once it completes its processing (but you can start working right away).

- Here's my own attempt at explaining how to quickly set CafeTran to fit your own needs (appearance, layout, etc.) : https://github.com/idimitriadis0/TheCafeTranFiles/wiki/6-Getting-comfortable

To stop further hijacking this thread which is about DVX4, I suggest a new forum post is created in the CafeTran section of this forum.

Jean

[Edited at 2018-11-16 23:39 GMT]


Thank you very much, Jean, for the information!


 

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DVX3 update Jan 15

Got an update to DVX3 today.

From https://atril.com/version-history/


Features

Added support for DeepL as a Machine Translation provider
Added support for DeepL as a Machine Translation provider
Added support for translating SRT files, including processing embedded HTML
Added support for handling protected editable ranges in Word documents
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Got an update to DVX3 today.

From https://atril.com/version-history/


Features

Added support for DeepL as a Machine Translation provider
Added support for DeepL as a Machine Translation provider
Added support for translating SRT files, including processing embedded HTML
Added support for handling protected editable ranges in Word documents in Office Live filter
Added support for handling text from dropdown lists in Word documents in Office Live filter
Added support for v9 of SYSTRAN API
Added support for v3 of MS Translation API, including use of TLS 1.2
Added support for TLS 1.2 when connecting to TEAMserver
Fixes

Improved handling of floating licenses when connecting to TEAMserver
Improved handling of floating licenses when connecting to TEAMserver
Fix for issues with mapping languages in Transit NXT filter
Large number of improvements and fixes to the Office Live filter, including:
Fix for incorrect processing of entities in embedded HTML markup in red cells in Excel worksheets
Improved handling of index entries in Word documents
Improved handling of document properties in Word documents
Improved handling of hidden sheets in Excel sheets
Improved handling of line breaks in Excel sheets
Improved handling of SmartArt objects
Fix for issue with processing instructions inside CDATA sections in IDML files
Fix for issue with fuzzy match repair when translating into Chinese or Japanese
Fix for issues with accents in the default path names, to address breaking changes in Microsoft’s Jet Engine
Improved handling of project ID collisions



[Edited at 2019-01-15 12:59 GMT]
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mikhailo
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re Jan 15


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Fix for issues with accents in the default path names, to address breaking changes in Microsoft’s Jet Engine
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[Edited at 2019-01-15 12:59 GMT]


Problem of Sept 2017 MS Win update is solved in 01.2019 patch.

And still no definite info about DVX4, that should appears in this trimester acc. to last rumours...


 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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Has anybody tested the update already? Jan 15

Alistair Gainey wrote:

Got an update to DVX3 today.


Is it safe to update and use it or does the update have some "rotten eggs" inside, like the recent "Studio" updates had?


 

Epameinondas Soufleros  Identity Verified
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Still not working Jan 15

All those fixes made no change for me: I still can't open any project; I get a message telling me that they may be corrupted.

So, I will uninstall again.

[Edited at 2019-01-15 13:47 GMT]


 

Matthias Brombach  Identity Verified
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Is this the result of the update ... Jan 15

Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:

All those fixes made no change for me: I still can't open any project; I get a message telling me that they may be corrupted.

So, I will uninstall again.

[Edited at 2019-01-15 13:47 GMT]


... because I cannot find any post of you in this thread at hand related to your problems. Good luck anyway, of course!

[Bearbeitet am 2019-01-15 15:17 GMT]


 

Selcuk Akyuz  Identity Verified
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Export problems Jan 15

I remember Epameinondas mentioned about problems with exporting TMs and TBs at https://www.proz.com/forum/déjà_vu_support/325406-dvx3_stopped_creating_projects_on_windows_10.html#2729905

It looks like a Windows problem on your computer but I can try to rescue your assets if they are not corrupted.

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I remember Epameinondas mentioned about problems with exporting TMs and TBs at https://www.proz.com/forum/déjà_vu_support/325406-dvx3_stopped_creating_projects_on_windows_10.html#2729905

It looks like a Windows problem on your computer but I can try to rescue your assets if they are not corrupted.

Epameinondas, can you send a small TM or TB which does not open on your system?

Selcuk
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