| Pages in topic: < [1 2] | New DVX prices... Thread poster: Grzegorz Gryc
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| I don't know what their future policy will be... | Jan 28, 2010 |
... but if you look at their past policy, going back to 1993 or thereabouts, DV must be one of the cheapest tools, when considered as a long-term investment over a number of years.
Many current users of DVX started with DV1, 2 or 3 back in the 1990s. AFAIK, all upgrades of DV1, 2 and 3 were free from 1993 to 2003 until a completely new product, DVX, was released. DV3 users could update to DVX for around 100 euros I believe, *AND* keep their DV3 dongle. You ended up with two great products ... See more ... but if you look at their past policy, going back to 1993 or thereabouts, DV must be one of the cheapest tools, when considered as a long-term investment over a number of years.
Many current users of DVX started with DV1, 2 or 3 back in the 1990s. AFAIK, all upgrades of DV1, 2 and 3 were free from 1993 to 2003 until a completely new product, DVX, was released. DV3 users could update to DVX for around 100 euros I believe, *AND* keep their DV3 dongle. You ended up with two great products as well as free support throughout. No yearly upgrade fees, pay-for support and old-licence-returning-and-reregistering palava.
Since 2003, all DVX upgrades have been free, including the latest one, 7.5.316, released at the end of 2009.
Why on earth would they suddenly make drastic changes to their policy with DV8? ▲ Collapse
| | | | Grzegorz Gryc 
Local time: 02:58
French to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER
David Turner wrote:
... but if you look at their past policy, going back to 1993 or thereabouts, DV must be one of the cheapest tools, when considered as a long-term investment over a number of years.
IMO yes, it is.
The problem is it doesn't look so for newcomers.
Most people don't understand tthe TCO, they see only the initial price.
DVX is a looser here.
Many current users of DVX started with DV1, 2 or 3 back in the 1990s. AFAIK, all upgrades of DV1, 2 and 3 were free from 1993 to 2003 until a completely new product, DVX, was released. DV3 users could update to DVX for around 100 euros I believe, *AND* keep their DV3 dongle.
So I did
You ended up with two great products as well as free support throughout. No yearly upgrade fees, pay-for support and old-licence-returning-and-reregistering palava.
The fact Atril still uses dongles is exceptional now.
I love it.
Since 2003, all DVX upgrades have been free, including the latest one, 7.5.316, released at the end of 2009.
Why on earth would they suddenly make drastic changes to their policy with DV8?
As a rather old DVX user, I can't complain.
Try to explain it to the prospects.
Cheers
GG
| | | | Grzegorz Gryc
Local time: 02:58
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TOPIC STARTER | Inefficient communication... solved... | Jan 28, 2010 |
Grzegorz Gryc wrote:
This week, I sent two e-mails to Atril.[...][/quote]
Solved.
Approx. 30 minutes on mail and one bug less.
DVX licenses for translation schools on the road.
You can do it.
Cheers
GG
| | | | Pavel Tsvetkov
Bulgaria
Local time: 03:58
Member (2008)
English to Bulgarian
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Moderator of this forum | Yes, but the question is whether it is worthwhile to buy their current version | Jan 28, 2010 |
David Turner wrote:
... but if you look at their past policy, going back to 1993 or thereabouts, DV must be one of the cheapest tools, when considered as a long-term investment over a number of years.
However, with the new version coming out in supposedly 5 or six months, and the current pro version being sold for 800 EUR, one cannot be sure whether this price + the upgrade price (which Atril take no obligation about), or even the version correspondence (Standard - Pro - Workgroup) will make it worthwhile to buy at the current prices.
David Turner wrote:
Why on earth would they suddenly make drastic changes to their policy with DV8?
Things have changed a lot since 1993. With MemoQ charging an yearly fee and Trados shelling out a new half-baked version every year (which is about the same), will the third big player dare to remain different?
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Grzegorz Gryc
Local time: 02:58
French to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER
Pavel Tsvetkov wrote:
However, with the new version coming out in supposedly 5 or six months, and the current pro version being sold for 800 EUR, one cannot be sure whether this price + the upgrade price (which Atril take no obligation about), or even the version correspondence (Standard - Pro - Workgroup) will make it worthwhile to buy at the current prices.
It's te reason why I didn't upgrade my second Pro to Workgroup now.
David Turner wrote:
Why on earth would they suddenly make drastic changes to their policy with DV8?
Things have changed a lot since 1993. With MemoQ charging an yearly fee and Trados shelling out a new half-baked version every year (which is about the same), will the third big player dare to remain different?
Well, some DV 9 is already planned, AFAIK.
Cheers
GG
| | | | Selcuk Akyuz
Türkiye
Local time: 03:58
English to Turkish
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Grzegorz Gryc wrote:
Well, some DV 9 is already planned, AFAIK.
Cheers
GG
To be released in 2019
| | | | Grzegorz Gryc
Local time: 02:58
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TOPIC STARTER | DV data base engine | Jan 28, 2010 |
Selcuk Akyuz wrote: Grzegorz Gryc wrote:
Well, some DV 9 is already planned, AFAIK. To be released in 2019
Probably faster
The data base engine should be revamped "shortly", i.e. MS Jet (Access) will be replaced by some SQL server.
So, it's another milestone in the... huh... roadmap...
Cheers
GG
| | | | John Taylor
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:58
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| Confusion reigns... What price is the upgrade?! | Mar 3, 2010 |
I've been using an evaluation licence for DVX to give it a go. I would like to buy DVX asap, but... I also want to know what upgrade is going to cost me.
I sent this to Atril directly and to Powerling:
I would, in principle, like to take advantage of this offer [the cut price deal for the Pro version - Atril sent me the offer because I downloaded the evaluation, and Powerling sent me the offer because I'd asked about their prices a while ago]. However, I cannot get an a... See more I've been using an evaluation licence for DVX to give it a go. I would like to buy DVX asap, but... I also want to know what upgrade is going to cost me.
I sent this to Atril directly and to Powerling:
I would, in principle, like to take advantage of this offer [the cut price deal for the Pro version - Atril sent me the offer because I downloaded the evaluation, and Powerling sent me the offer because I'd asked about their prices a while ago]. However, I cannot get an answer regarding
your upgrade policy to version 8 (whenever it is released). What will be
the upgrade price or will purchasing now include free upgrade?
Reply from Powerling:
The upgrade to the new version is going to cost 395€.
Reply from Atril:
Any customers who purchase Déjà Vu X 6 as many as 6 months before the release of the next version will not be required to purchase an upgrade to the new version.
Quite apart from the fact that the version I'm evaluating is 7.5.316(!), this is seriously poor communication considering I AM VERY KEEN TO BUY THE PRODUCT. It is - quite simply - insane.
a) If the upgrade is going to be free, that's a major advantage, so you publish it loud and clear,
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b) if the upgrade isn't going to be free, it's extremely bad marketing to make massive price cuts without stating that fact. I.e., version 8 could cost 660 € PLUS 395 € = 1055 € ...
Very confused. ▲ Collapse
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