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wherestip  Identity Verified
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Globalization Sep 4, 2011

I hate to say this, but the way I see it, you either provide some extra value add, or risk getting replaced by someone who can do the same job at a lower price. Of course, there's a huge caveat as to what could be construed as "the same job".

The nature of this phenomenon is not too much different than the offshoring of millions of American jobs in the past few decades.

p.s. Please don't view my words
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I hate to say this, but the way I see it, you either provide some extra value add, or risk getting replaced by someone who can do the same job at a lower price. Of course, there's a huge caveat as to what could be construed as "the same job".

The nature of this phenomenon is not too much different than the offshoring of millions of American jobs in the past few decades.

p.s. Please don't view my words as being controversial. The way I see it, globalization is a fact of life. The only way to counter its effect, IMO, is to excel in your services and to provide a superior final product. Yueyin is right about the importance of specialization. You basically offer a skill set that others could not.


[Edited at 2011-09-04 20:31 GMT]
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同意,但并不总是如此简单 Sep 4, 2011

wherestip wrote:

I hate to say this, but the way I see it, you either provide some extra value add, or risk getting replaced by someone who can do the same job at a lower price. Of course, there's a huge caveat as to what could be considered "the same job".

The nature of this phenomenon is basically the same as the off-shoring of millions of American jobs in the past few decades.

p.s. Please don't view my words as being controversial. The way I see it, globalization is a fact of life. The only way to counter its effect, IMO, is to excel in your services and to provide a superior final product. Yueyin is right about the importance of specialization. You basically offer a skill set that others don't have.


[Edited at 2011-09-04 16:20 GMT]


完全同意此说法,但有时自身的努力得不到尊重的情况也是存在的,因为有的客户并不懂得依据你的服务而定价,而是盲目地追随所谓的“本地市场价”。
我有时在国内小住的时候,接到报价相对较低的活儿时会对自己说,按照国内的生活水平,已经很不错了,接下无妨,但转念一想,相同的心血,为何要因所处地区不同而折价呢?
所以,或许这样说,如果对自己的服务有信心的,就要定一个合适的价格,而不要一味追求以低价取胜。如果因此而失去客户,那也没什么好可惜的。


 

wherestip  Identity Verified
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The market Sep 4, 2011

Jie LIU wrote:

完全同意此说法,但有时自身的努力得不到尊重的情况也是存在的,因为有的客户并不懂得依据你的服务而定价,而是盲目地追随所谓的“本地市场价”。
我有时在国内小住的时候,接到报价相对较低的活儿时会对自己说,按照国内的生活水平,已经很不错了,接下无妨,但转念一想,相同的心血,为何要因所处地区不同而折价呢?
所以,或许这样说,如果对自己的服务有信心的,就要定一个合适的价格,而不要一味追求以低价取胜。如果因此而失去客户,那也没什么好可惜的。


Jie,

I agree with you. Everyone's circumstances are different.

I think one has to have a true understanding of where one stands in the market "food chain", so to speak. Self confidence and a realistic evaluation of what one brings to the table are equally important.


 

wherestip  Identity Verified
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站着说话不腰疼 Sep 4, 2011

我说得不一定对,所以大家别在乎。 不过我认为可以肯定的是,随着国内英语的普及,低价翻译的市场是不会消失的。

 

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毛病都跑出来了 Sep 5, 2011

zhoudan 大大,

其实我的问题就是整个人(可能也包括脑袋啊哈)都有毛病。

就我个人的经验,我前阵子突然颈部发生严重的痛症,去照了X光片后医生说是颈椎第4、5节中间软骨有退化的问题。我还是80后的,你可以想象我当时是多么的欲哭无泪。。。就中医角度来说,本人天生气血不足,血液运行不好,所以特别容易在身体关节部分发生状况。这是替我针灸的医师说的,呜呜。

物理治疗教了我很多伸展动作,所以这方面来讲我真的可以说是经验之谈(虽然这样的经验我完全不想有):换了枕头以后还是要当心,疼痛消失了并不代表那个部位已经完全康复。休息跟良好的进食、工作习惯还是关键。

离题了,对不起啊。


 

wonita (X)
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有些病会自己消失的 Sep 5, 2011

Rita Pang wrote:

就我个人的经验,我前阵子突然颈部发生严重的痛症,去照了X光片后医生说是颈椎第4、5节中间软骨有退化的问题。我还是80后的,你可以想象我当时是多么的欲哭无泪。。。就中医角度来说,本人天生气血不足,血液运行不好,所以特别容易在身体关节部分发生状况。这是替我针灸的医师说的,呜呜。

我以前有严重的背痛,发作时甚至到了站不起来的地步。查了很多次也找不出原因。最后一次发作好像已经是五六年前了,现在一直很好。

我们这里有卖一种“人体工程”椅,据说很适合电脑族,价格在五六百到一千多欧。如果你相信一分价一分货,不妨去找找看?


 

wonita (X)
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看过《射雕》吗? Sep 5, 2011

James_xia wrote:

Donglai Lou wrote:

Bin Tiede wrote:

那你得以身作则

素质不佳,相貌太差,经历肤浅,没人要啦。劝年轻观望者,速速另觅奚径,别来译狱,受尽折磨,难以超生。


。。。。。

是郭靖,不是杨康。


 

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试试泡脚 Sep 5, 2011

最好买个用电加热的高桶,每天泡脚20-30分钟。养生节目也说,泡脚对颈椎有好处。

Rita Pang wrote:
就中医角度来说,本人天生气血不足,血液运行不好,所以特别容易在身体关节部分发生状况。


 

clairejie  Identity Verified
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跟着大家跑题 Sep 5, 2011

Rita Pang wrote:

zhoudan 大大,

其实我的问题就是整个人(可能也包括脑袋啊哈)都有毛病。

就我个人的经验,我前阵子突然颈部发生严重的痛症,去照了X光片后医生说是颈椎第4、5节中间软骨有退化的问题。我还是80后的,你可以想象我当时是多么的欲哭无泪。。。就中医角度来说,本人天生气血不足,血液运行不好,所以特别容易在身体关节部分发生状况。这是替我针灸的医师说的,呜呜。

物理治疗教了我很多伸展动作,所以这方面来讲我真的可以说是经验之谈(虽然这样的经验我完全不想有):换了枕头以后还是要当心,疼痛消失了并不代表那个部位已经完全康复。休息跟良好的进食、工作习惯还是关键。

离题了,对不起啊。



我做自由翻译以后出现的明显症状是右肩膀疼,虽然不很严重,但甩手时听见咯吱咯吱的声响还是有点忧心。
两个月前办了健身卡,每周做点器械运动,并游两到三次泳,疼痛居然就消失了。
在家对着电脑工作,的确需要劳逸结合,适当的运动不可少。


 

clearwater
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游泳效果好 Sep 6, 2011

酷热的夏季终于渐行渐远,尽管只游了一个月的泳,但感觉效果还是不错。除了全身心放松这个好处外,对我这种属于外貌协会的人来说,还能锻炼上半身的肌肉,那样衣服穿起来会更有型,更是大喜过望^_^

 

Rita Pang  Identity Verified
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继续跑题 Sep 6, 2011

各位说的很是,我的医生们全都推荐游泳。我就是夏天吃太多了,游泳之前还是先瘦身比较好哈哈哈

脚底按摩的确很有效,另外一样超有效的就是针灸,真的救了我的小命好几次。 看来各位同业都是有这些电脑工作引发的毛病啊。。。保重

Edit了帖子,跑题我写成了泡汤,哈哈哈。可惜加拿大没有温泉。

[Edited at 2011-09-06 02:00 GMT]


 

nigerose  Identity Verified
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坐着 Sep 6, 2011

站着说话不腰疼
wherestip wrote:

我说得不一定对,所以大家别在乎。 不过我认为可以肯定的是,随着国内英语的普及,低价翻译的市场是不会消失的。


你说这话的时候一定坐在电脑前。

看人家谷歌公司的新举措:
美硅谷上班族刮起“站着办公”潮
http://n1.81813.com/wj/hot/09042011/215448299.shtml

这个点子我早就有,只是个人不好实现。

[修改时间: 2011-09-06 04:44 GMT]


 

wherestip  Identity Verified
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"站着说话不腰疼" Sep 6, 2011

nigerose wrote:

站着说话不腰疼
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你说这话的时候一定坐在电脑前。



Well, that was only a figure of speech. And I would have felt a little funny if somebody else said that about me.

In this instance, I was indeed sitting in front of my computer. But with today's plethora of electronic devices to choose from, I could have typed that post from anywhere. I could have been lying on the floor in front of a TV monitor, for example.


 

nigerose  Identity Verified
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开玩笑 Sep 6, 2011

wherestip wrote:

nigerose wrote:

站着说话不腰疼
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你说这话的时候一定坐在电脑前。



Well, that was only a figure of speech. And I would have felt a little funny if somebody else said that about me.

In this instance, I was indeed sitting in front of my computer. But with today's plethora of electronic devices to choose from, I could have typed that post from anywhere. I could have been lying on the floor in front of a TV monitor, for example.


我也是开玩笑,请别介意。我们还是关注“美硅谷上班族刮起‘站着办公’潮”吧。我认为这是一种革命性的进步。
我原来设想过可以自由调节高度的电脑桌,可以坐着也可以站着用电脑,这样就能解决“电脑病”。

其实这类电脑桌已经有人申请专利,例如:http://www.soopat.com/Patent/201030222741

不知道有没有商品化,但愿早点上市,造福电脑族。


 

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我60後 Sep 7, 2011

坐在電腦前15年了﹐倒是沒有渾身上下腦袋疼的現象。 唯一左側前臂外側接近肘部有一片角化。想來想去﹐感到可能是手提電腦燙傷﹐出現了皮炎。原來我那台很老的東芝手提電腦很熱﹐當初總是把那個部位貼在電腦上﹐感覺還挺舒服﹐跟“電療”似的。

其他的就是老抽煙。條件反射似的。有時我就故意停下來出去走30分鐘﹐身上不帶煙。

我們這個地方比中國的一個鎮大不了多少﹐商店只在十字交叉的兩條主要街道上﹐各延伸一個MILE多一點﹐所以出去走也BORED。


 
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