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Famous bakeries in Beijing ... Oct 15, 2006

Again, sorry for my forgetfulness !

Certainly, it would be great if Yueyin could introduce more about all the famous bakeries he knows about in Beijing and anywhere else in the world.

wherestip wrote:

桂香村 and 稻香春 are two famous bakeries in Beijing that's been in business for a long long time. Yueyin and I talked about them here in the forum a couple of times. The link I just linked above also mentions both.


 

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無論如何,不想你把我放進你的嘴裡--笑一笑 Oct 15, 2006

『Pecans... Oct 14

Although a pecan tart is a miniature of a pecan pie (IMHO), I like both of them. BTW, I 've been wondering if PKChan's name is pronounced the same way as the word “pecan” (True or false? Let me know please)...』

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:bb0Q_g6TzD-

“pecan”=pkchan?

a. True
b. False
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『Pecans... Oct 14

Although a pecan tart is a miniature of a pecan pie (IMHO), I like both of them. BTW, I 've been wondering if PKChan's name is pronounced the same way as the word “pecan” (True or false? Let me know please)...』

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:bb0Q_g6TzD-

“pecan”=pkchan?

a. True
b. False
c. Pain Killer
d. None of the above

The correct answer is: b. (100%, no doubt about it)

Betty, think "Cantonese" , please. I'm from "Hong Kong, China", not "Mainland China", nor "China Mainland".

廣東人相信以形補形,合桃(核字不好聽)樣子像腦子,多吃可補腦,翻譯也靈些。
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Since PK is from Hong Kong, China, Oct 15, 2006

I believe his Cantonese pronunciation is flawless. Thus, I strongly agree with him, i.e. "b" is the correct answer to the question below

(Yes, Betty needs to think more often in Cantonese and eat more walnuts or hickory nuts;))

pkchan wrote:

“pecan”=pkchan?

a. True
b. False
c. Pain Killer
d. None of the above

The correct answer is: b. (100%, no doubt about it)

Betty, think "Cantonese" , please. I'm from "Hong Kong, China", not "Mainland China", nor "China Mainland".


 

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東東蛋卷皇 Oct 15, 2006

本來,在哥倫布日的長週末,要到多倫多參加婚禮,因為不想開車,又不想飛,工作又忙,結果派了兩兒子飛去代表,回來時,帶來加拿大美心月餅一盒,放在餐桌上,未有動過,還有『東東蛋卷皇』,在MARKHAM那一家,www.tungtungdanquenking.com/product/ROLL/BOTTOM.HTM 已壓成碎片,年青人就是這樣。準備暑假會去,多倫多是我第三故鄉。

 

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那我过几天也到大多市逛逛:-) Oct 15, 2006

那儿可是北美华人的美食天堂!
pkchan wrote:

本來,在哥倫布日的長週末,要到多倫多參加婚禮,因為不想開車,又不想飛,工作又忙,結果派了兩兒子飛去代表,回來時,帶來加拿大美心月餅一盒,放在餐桌上,未有動過,還有『東東蛋卷皇』,在MARKHAM那一家,www.tungtungdanquenking.com/product/ROLL/BOTTOM.HTM 已壓成碎片,年青人就是這樣。準備暑假會去,多倫多是我第三故鄉。


 

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稻香春和桂香村 Oct 15, 2006

Chinoise wrote:
Certainly, it would be great if Yueyin could introduce more about all the famous bakeries he knows about in Beijing and anywhere else in the world.

wherestip wrote:

桂香村 and 稻香春 are two famous bakeries in Beijing that's been in business for a long long time. Yueyin and I talked about them here in the forum a couple of times. The link I just linked above also mentions both.


Betty,

照你这么一说,人家还以为我是美食鉴定专家似的。不过wherestip说得不错,稻香春和桂香村是北京两家最著名的老字号糕饼店。可是现在北京的许多商场、大型超市都在卖稻香春和桂香村的点心,但品质差异却很大。据说,北京某些糕饼厂把制作糕饼的任务承包给郊区的个体户,然后挂上著名招牌在各商场出售。这种做法很危险。老字号之所以经久不衰,就是因为他们注重信誉,精工细作。可现在有的老字号为了追求最大利润,滥用他们长期树立起来的信誉,偷工减料。前几年南京冠生园用陈馅制作月饼就是一例,现在已经破产。详见“南京冠生园:信誉的破产”,
http://www.people.com.cn/GB/jinji/33/172/20020331/698776.html

去年回北京时,经别人介绍到北京师范大学马路对面一家超市的稻香春专柜买点心,品质果然不错。到那里买点心总是要排长队。以前购物讨厌排长队,可现在却甘愿走远点去排长队。酒好不怕巷子深,大概就是这个道理。

联想我们搞翻译这一行,若是我们注重信誉、精工细作,那么客户也会在后面排起长队。

补充一点,wherestip提供的link里提到的稻香春(和平里店),现在仍在那里。我以前曾在和平里一带上学、工作多年,出于怀旧心理,去年回京时特地去那儿看了看。结果发现,稻香春因门口地铁车站施工影响营业,店里甚是萧条。但我相信,一旦地铁车站完工,交通将更加便利,将十分有利于该店的生意。护国寺的桂香村也还在,它是前店后厂,到那儿应能买到正宗的桂香村食品。不过桂香村的门面数十年没什么变化,不怎么起眼。

[Edited at 2006-10-15 19:53]


 

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糟菜米粉 Oct 15, 2006

天气有点凉了.来一碗热热的糟菜米粉(其实是糟菜Udon),真爽快!

[Edited at 2006-10-15 19:58]


 

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Thank you very much, Yueyin! Oct 15, 2006

至今没有吃到您去年推荐的“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”,深感遗憾。看来,稻香春和桂香村这两家老字号糕饼店果然名不虚传,想必它们也卖“豌豆黄”和“炸糕”?

不知何故,您提供的链接我无法点进去,恐怕是我的机子出了点问题......

关于翻译,您的话非常在理。只要我们“注重信誉、精工细作”,不怕没有排长队的回头客。在这方面,您无疑是我们大家
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至今没有吃到您去年推荐的“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”,深感遗憾。看来,稻香春和桂香村这两家老字号糕饼店果然名不虚传,想必它们也卖“豌豆黄”和“炸糕”?

不知何故,您提供的链接我无法点进去,恐怕是我的机子出了点问题......

关于翻译,您的话非常在理。只要我们“注重信誉、精工细作”,不怕没有排长队的回头客。在这方面,您无疑是我们大家的楷模。

Yueyin Sun wrote:

Betty,

照你这么一说,人家还以为我是美食鉴定专家似的。不过wherestip说得不错,稻香春和桂香村是北京两家最著名的老字号糕饼店。可是现在北京的许多商场、大型超市都在卖稻香春和桂香村的点心,但品质差异却很大。据说,北京某些糕饼厂把制作糕饼的任务承包给郊区的个体户,然后挂上著名招牌在各商场出售。这种做法很危险。老字号之所以经久不衰,就是因为他们注重信誉,精工细作。可现在有的老字号为了追求最大利润,滥用他们长期树立起来的信誉,偷工减料。前几年南京冠生园用陈馅制作月饼就是一例,现在已经破产。详见“南京冠生园:信誉的破产”,
http://www.people.com.cn/GB/jinji/33/172/20020331/698776.html

去年回北京时,经别人介绍到北京师范大学马路对面一家超市的稻香春专柜买点心,品质果然不错。到那里买点心总是要排长队。以前购物讨厌排长队,可现在却甘愿走远点去排长队。酒好不怕巷子深,大概就是这个道理。

联想我们搞翻译这一行,若是我们注重信誉、精工细作,那么客户也会在后面排起长队。
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Pei Ling, 谢谢你! Oct 15, 2006

有糟菜米粉的图片吗(让大家也能感受一下它的热度)?
这几天好冷啊!

Pei Ling Haussecker wrote:
天气有点凉了.来一碗热热的糟菜米粉(其实是糟菜Udon),真爽快!


[Edited at 2006-10-15 20:23]


 

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没找着呢... Oct 15, 2006

贴post时搜索了一下不过没找着.吾糟菜Udon来不及拍照...


Chinoise wrote:

有糟菜米粉的图片吗(让大家也能感受一下它的热度)?
这几天好冷啊!

Pei Ling Haussecker wrote:
天气有点凉了.来一碗热热的糟菜米粉(其实是糟菜Udon),真爽快!


[Edited at 2006-10-15 20:23]


[Edited at 2006-10-15 21:36]


 

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豌豆黄与炸糕 Oct 15, 2006

Betty,

“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”在北京很多小吃点都能买到呀,但稻香春和桂香村主要卖糕点,不卖“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”。“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”只有现做现吃才好吃。“豌豆黄”放时间一长会出水。我在此有时用超市买来的去皮绿豆加上水、糖、桂花、杏仁精等煮成糊状,待凉了之后就成了“豌豆黄”,几乎可以以假乱真,不妨一试。我也试过炸炸糕和麻球,但炸到
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Betty,

“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”在北京很多小吃点都能买到呀,但稻香春和桂香村主要卖糕点,不卖“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”。“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”只有现做现吃才好吃。“豌豆黄”放时间一长会出水。我在此有时用超市买来的去皮绿豆加上水、糖、桂花、杏仁精等煮成糊状,待凉了之后就成了“豌豆黄”,几乎可以以假乱真,不妨一试。我也试过炸炸糕和麻球,但炸到最后阶段炸糕和麻球膨胀时会”爆炸”,溅得到处都是油,弄不好还会烫伤。So, don't do it at home! 北京的豆腐脑也很好吃。我一般不大吃羊肉,但尽管豆腐脑里有羊肉末,我还是很爱吃。

那个关于南京冠生园的链接,我修改了一下,现在应能进去了。

至于楷模,实在不敢当。我只能说自己在提供翻译时尽了自己最大努力。由于水平、能力有限,尽力后也不一定达到很高水平;但我相信,只要尽了最大努力,翻译出来的东西应该不会太差、错误不会太多。再加上高手审核,最后作品应能符合要求。
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Hi Yueyin, Oct 15, 2006

哇,您居然会做“豌豆黄”, 佩服,佩服!有时间按照您提供的步骤试试看,若不成功,就不在此向大家汇报了。:)

小贝多次拜读过您的“精华贴”, 深知您的中英文功力深厚;大家一致公认:您是我们学习的“楷模”。 所以,请不必过谦!

Yueyin Sun wrote:

Betty,

“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”在北京很多小吃点都能买到呀,但稻香春和桂香村主要卖糕点,不卖“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”。“豌豆黄”与“炸糕”只有现做现吃才好吃。“豌豆黄”放时间一长会出水。我在此有时用超市买来的去皮绿豆加上水、糖、桂花、杏仁精等煮成糊状,待凉了之后就成了“豌豆黄”,几乎可以以假乱真,不妨一试。我也试过炸炸糕和麻球,但炸到最后阶段炸糕和麻球膨胀时会”爆炸”,溅得到处都是油,弄不好还会烫伤。So, don't do it at home! 北京的豆腐脑也很好吃。我一般不大吃羊肉,但尽管豆腐脑里有羊肉末,我还是很爱吃。

那个关于南京冠生园的链接,我修改了一下,现在应能进去了。

至于楷模,实在不敢当。我只能说自己在提供翻译时尽了自己最大努力。由于水平、能力有限,尽力后也不一定达到很高水平;但我相信,只要尽了最大努力,翻译出来的东西应该不会太差、错误不会太多。再加上高手审核,最后作品应能符合要求。


[Edited at 2006-10-16 00:34]


 

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慢慢来! Oct 15, 2006

说不定哪天能找着!(我以前从没听说过吾糟菜......大概又是马来食品吧?)

Pei Ling Haussecker wrote:

贴post时搜索了一下不过没找着.吾糟菜Udon来不及拍照...


Chinoise wrote:

有糟菜米粉的图片吗(让大家也能感受一下它的热度)?
这几天好冷啊!

Pei Ling Haussecker wrote:
天气有点凉了.来一碗热热的糟菜米粉(其实是糟菜Udon),真爽快!


[Edited at 2006-10-15 20:23]


[Edited at 2006-10-15 21:36]


 

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:~ Oct 15, 2006

是俺的糟菜Udon啦.

Chinoise wrote:

说不定哪天能找着!(我以前从没听说过吾糟菜......大概又是马来食品吧?)



 

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原来如此--哈哈! Oct 15, 2006

“糟菜面”(见下图):这里面放的是不是糟菜,霈霖?




Pei Ling Haussecker wrote:

是俺的糟菜Udon啦.



[Edited at 2006-10-16 00:01]


 
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