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如何顺利访问Google SpreadSheets?
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clearwater
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不懂深入原理 Aug 10, 2011

Xiangdong Zhuo wrote:

hosts 文件修改后不用重启电脑。我接触到的用法是为某些域名指定错误的 IP,从而封锁对某些网站的后台访问。采用这个办法应该是起到本机 DNS 的作用,至于想用它来翻墙,得看是什么墙。农家的土墙或许可以,皇宫后院恐怕翻不过去。


谢谢!
其实我不懂hosts文件的深入原理,只晓得朋友说可以通过修改hosts文件的方法来访问Google Spreadsheets。


 

clearwater
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换来换去的主机名? Aug 10, 2011

在VPN98的连接属性下面:
“常规”选项卡
下面
“目的地的主机名或IP地址”
f.vpn36.com

我怀疑这个f.vpn36.com是不是有问题?以前我也有过VPN98拨入连接出错的情况,当时曾把原来的主机名改成了f.vpn36.com,才可以连接上去。
会不会是VPN98这个VPN代理系统的主机名又改了?


 

clearwater
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终于搞定了 Aug 10, 2011

总算想到了我所使用的免费VPN代理的名称,然后找到了对应的官方网站,发现主机名的确又换了。在“属性”中将原来的主机名即服务器地址改成了新的地址,重新拨号连接,终于能上去了!

再次感谢夏兄和周丹等各位网友!


 

Zhoudan  Identity Verified
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你真行 Aug 11, 2011

我只能用用一切都设置好的收费服务。

clearwater wrote:

总算想到了我所使用的免费VPN代理的名称,然后找到了对应的官方网站,发现主机名的确又换了。在“属性”中将原来的主机名即服务器地址改成了新的地址,重新拨号连接,终于能上去了!

再次感谢夏兄和周丹等各位网友!


 

clearwater
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也许得不偿失 Aug 11, 2011

对于时间宝贵的朋友来说,我这样的做法显然是得不偿失:)
近期比较空,所以又开始执拗起来:)
能免费的就免费,实在没辙了,再想需要掏腰包的法子。


 

Zhoudan  Identity Verified
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掏腰包 Aug 11, 2011

掏腰包后我觉得很安心,不怕客户用yousendit发文件,google起来也痛快。

 

Donglai Lou  Identity Verified
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Yousendit 解禁了。 Aug 11, 2011

Zhoudan wrote:

掏腰包后我觉得很安心,不怕客户用yousendit发文件,google起来也痛快。


在解禁之前,如果客户专门发到你信箱的 Yousendit 链接,也可以用yousendit express下载。


 

Zhoudan  Identity Verified
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谢谢告知这个好消息 Aug 11, 2011

什么时候发现的?是不是跟KudoZ同时?
Donglai Lou wrote:

Zhoudan wrote:

掏腰包后我觉得很安心,不怕客户用yousendit发文件,google起来也痛快。


在解禁之前,如果客户专门发到你信箱的 Yousendit 链接,也可以用yousendit express下载。


 

Donglai Lou  Identity Verified
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对,一批的 Aug 11, 2011

Zhoudan wrote:

什么时候发现的?是不是跟KudoZ同时?
Donglai Lou wrote:

Zhoudan wrote:

掏腰包后我觉得很安心,不怕客户用yousendit发文件,google起来也痛快。


在解禁之前,如果客户专门发到你信箱的 Yousendit 链接,也可以用yousendit express下载。


在大寿前,六月另一敏感日期后。


 

Shouguang Cao
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hosts Aug 11, 2011

clearwater wrote:

Xiangdong Zhuo wrote:

hosts 文件修改后不用重启电脑。我接触到的用法是为某些域名指定错误的 IP,从而封锁对某些网站的后台访问。采用这个办法应该是起到本机 DNS 的作用,至于想用它来翻墙,得看是什么墙。农家的土墙或许可以,皇宫后院恐怕翻不过去。


谢谢!
其实我不懂hosts文件的深入原理,只晓得朋友说可以通过修改hosts文件的方法来访问Google Spreadsheets。


Xiangdong 也差不多解释清了,没啥深奥的。浏览器访问网页时,需要先联系一个服务器(学名DNS 服务器),把我们用的域名,如sina.com.cn “翻译”成IP地址,再从该IP地址获取数据。农家土墙的一个做法是域名劫持,把要封的域名拦截,使之不能翻译成正确的IP,从而造成该域名无法访问。hosts的原理是强制把域名翻译成某个IP,告诉系统和浏览器无需联系DNS服务器。聪明的群众发现更改本地hosts文件,系统翻译域名时无需联系远程服务器就直接在本地机器上译成IP地址,这样就可以正常访问了。当然,高级点的砖墙把IP给封了,域名翻译成了正确的IP,仍然无法访问。好在谷歌有n多个服务器,一个不行了就换另一个。

如Xiangdong所说,hosts可以用来封锁某些网站的访问,如果你讨厌新浪,那就在hosts添加一行 127.0.0.1 www.sina.com.cn ,你就再也没法访问新浪了。聪明的你看出来了,hosts还可以用来破解软件,嘿嘿,一些软件是在背地里联系某个服务器,查看软件是否正确授权,在hosts里添加一下,这些软件就再也没法联系上自己的服务器了...

最后共享一下我访问google各种服务的 hosts 项,能用的,至少现在能用!

66.249.89.46 www.google.com.hk
72.14.203.91 docs.google.com
72.14.203.91 spreadsheets.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn0.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn1.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn2.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn3.google.com
#google plus
74.125.230.107 plus.google.com
209.85.175.132 images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 images2-focus-opensocia2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 s2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com


 

wonita (X)
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大家越来越成熟了 Aug 11, 2011

Donglai Lou wrote:
在大寿前,六月另一敏感日期后。


 

clearwater
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修改hosts文件到底是为了能够访问还是阻止访问? Aug 11, 2011

Dallas Cao wrote:

clearwater wrote:

Xiangdong Zhuo wrote:

hosts 文件修改后不用重启电脑。我接触到的用法是为某些域名指定错误的 IP,从而封锁对某些网站的后台访问。采用这个办法应该是起到本机 DNS 的作用,至于想用它来翻墙,得看是什么墙。农家的土墙或许可以,皇宫后院恐怕翻不过去。


谢谢!
其实我不懂hosts文件的深入原理,只晓得朋友说可以通过修改hosts文件的方法来访问Google Spreadsheets。


Xiangdong 也差不多解释清了,没啥深奥的。浏览器访问网页时,需要先联系一个服务器(学名DNS 服务器),把我们用的域名,如sina.com.cn “翻译”成IP地址,再从该IP地址获取数据。农家土墙的一个做法是域名劫持,把要封的域名拦截,使之不能翻译成正确的IP,从而造成该域名无法访问。hosts的原理是强制把域名翻译成某个IP,告诉系统和浏览器无需联系DNS服务器。聪明的群众发现更改本地hosts文件,系统翻译域名时无需联系远程服务器就直接在本地机器上译成IP地址,这样就可以正常访问了。当然,高级点的砖墙把IP给封了,域名翻译成了正确的IP,仍然无法访问。好在谷歌有n多个服务器,一个不行了就换另一个。

如Xiangdong所说,hosts可以用来封锁某些网站的访问,如果你讨厌新浪,那就在hosts添加一行 127.0.0.1 www.sina.com.cn ,你就再也没法访问新浪了。聪明的你看出来了,hosts还可以用来破解软件,嘿嘿,一些软件是在背地里联系某个服务器,查看软件是否正确授权,在hosts里添加一下,这些软件就再也没法联系上自己的服务器了...

最后共享一下我访问google各种服务的 hosts 项,能用的,至少现在能用!

66.249.89.46 www.google.com.hk
72.14.203.91 docs.google.com
72.14.203.91 spreadsheets.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn0.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn1.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn2.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn3.google.com
#google plus
74.125.230.107 plus.google.com
209.85.175.132 images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 images2-focus-opensocia2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 s2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com





曹兄,听你在上面的解释,修改hosts文件似乎是为了阻止对某个网站的访问。但我为的是能够访问某个网站(Google Spreadsheets)。这样一来的话,如果在hosts文件里面添加72.14.203.91 spreadsheets.google.com
之类的内容,岂不是成了阻止对Google Spreadsheets的访问?这不是与我们的本意恰好相反了吗?


 

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Name Servers Aug 12, 2011

You're at the mercy of the DNS name server if it intentionally resolves your intended domain name into an erroneous IP address, such as 127.0.0.1, therefore blocking your access. Instead, the correct address for Google should be resolved into something else, such as 72.14.203.91 for those of you located in Mainland China. So to defeat the DNS server, you need to override the wrong address with the right one. Whether that is something easily achievable is another issue.

Actually, i
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You're at the mercy of the DNS name server if it intentionally resolves your intended domain name into an erroneous IP address, such as 127.0.0.1, therefore blocking your access. Instead, the correct address for Google should be resolved into something else, such as 72.14.203.91 for those of you located in Mainland China. So to defeat the DNS server, you need to override the wrong address with the right one. Whether that is something easily achievable is another issue.

Actually, if you know the IP address of the website you want to visit, you could directly plug it into the address space of your browser …

For example, http://72.14.203.91

Theoretically, without any firewall interference, this should take you directly to Google's webpage.
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Shouguang Cao
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二者皆可 Aug 16, 2011

两者都可以,你把某个域名固定定义成错误的ip,就阻止访问该网站,把著名定义成正确的域名,你的电脑就省去了远程解析域名这道工序(这道工序可能会被有关部分破坏),从而达到了翻墙的目的。

clearwater wrote:

Dallas Cao wrote:

clearwater wrote:

Xiangdong Zhuo wrote:

hosts 文件修改后不用重启电脑。我接触到的用法是为某些域名指定错误的 IP,从而封锁对某些网站的后台访问。采用这个办法应该是起到本机 DNS 的作用,至于想用它来翻墙,得看是什么墙。农家的土墙或许可以,皇宫后院恐怕翻不过去。


谢谢!
其实我不懂hosts文件的深入原理,只晓得朋友说可以通过修改hosts文件的方法来访问Google Spreadsheets。


Xiangdong 也差不多解释清了,没啥深奥的。浏览器访问网页时,需要先联系一个服务器(学名DNS 服务器),把我们用的域名,如sina.com.cn “翻译”成IP地址,再从该IP地址获取数据。农家土墙的一个做法是域名劫持,把要封的域名拦截,使之不能翻译成正确的IP,从而造成该域名无法访问。hosts的原理是强制把域名翻译成某个IP,告诉系统和浏览器无需联系DNS服务器。聪明的群众发现更改本地hosts文件,系统翻译域名时无需联系远程服务器就直接在本地机器上译成IP地址,这样就可以正常访问了。当然,高级点的砖墙把IP给封了,域名翻译成了正确的IP,仍然无法访问。好在谷歌有n多个服务器,一个不行了就换另一个。

如Xiangdong所说,hosts可以用来封锁某些网站的访问,如果你讨厌新浪,那就在hosts添加一行 127.0.0.1 www.sina.com.cn ,你就再也没法访问新浪了。聪明的你看出来了,hosts还可以用来破解软件,嘿嘿,一些软件是在背地里联系某个服务器,查看软件是否正确授权,在hosts里添加一下,这些软件就再也没法联系上自己的服务器了...

最后共享一下我访问google各种服务的 hosts 项,能用的,至少现在能用!

66.249.89.46 www.google.com.hk
72.14.203.91 docs.google.com
72.14.203.91 spreadsheets.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn0.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn1.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn2.google.com
72.14.203.93 encrypted-tbn3.google.com
#google plus
74.125.230.107 plus.google.com
209.85.175.132 images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 images2-focus-opensocia2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 s2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh1.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh2.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh3.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh4.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh5.googleusercontent.com
209.85.143.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com
209.85.175.132 lh6.googleusercontent.com





曹兄,听你在上面的解释,修改hosts文件似乎是为了阻止对某个网站的访问。但我为的是能够访问某个网站(Google Spreadsheets)。这样一来的话,如果在hosts文件里面添加72.14.203.91 spreadsheets.google.com
之类的内容,岂不是成了阻止对Google Spreadsheets的访问?这不是与我们的本意恰好相反了吗?


 

Shouguang Cao
China
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直接ip访问代替不了改hosts Aug 16, 2011

直接ip访问代替不了改hosts,即使这个IP72.14.203.91没被封,打开了谷歌首页,也很可能没多大用处,因为网页上面的链接、图片及提交地址都是使用域名的,例如页面上的图片链接使用的可能就是images1-focus-opensocial.googleusercontent.com这个域名。

当然当前更好的翻墙办法是购买vpn服务。


wherestip wrote:

You're at the mercy of the DNS name server if it intentionally resolves your intended domain name into an erroneous IP address, such as 127.0.0.1, therefore blocking your access. Instead, the correct address for Google should be resolved into something else, such as 72.14.203.91 for those of you located in Mainland China. So to defeat the DNS server, you need to override the wrong address with the right one. Whether that is something easily achievable is another issue.

Actually, if you know the IP address of the website you want to visit, you could directly plug it into the address space of your browser …

For example, http://72.14.203.91

Theoretically, without any firewall interference, this should take you directly to Google's webpage.


 
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