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Esperanto - how 'alive' is it? How long to learn? Any online courses?
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Thanks for the links! Jun 30, 2004

Hi Venabili,

Thanks a lot for your links.

The Uni Leipzig dictionary is great! It has entries in Esperanto only as well as from other languages to Esperanto and the other way round.

When did you start with Esperanto? Did you have a teacher or did you study with online courses? It seems to me that many people actually learn Esperanto online. I don't think online learning is that widespread with other languages.

Stefanie


 
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Learning online Jun 30, 2004

sundari wrote:
When did you start with Esperanto? Did you have a teacher or did you study with online courses? It seems to me that many people actually learn Esperanto online. I don't think online learning is that widespread with other languages.

Stefanie


Saluton Stefanie,

Another great dictionary is part of the Lernu! site. It is also useful as if you type an Esperanto word it makes an analyze so even if you mistype, it wil show the word.

I started a few months ago. I do not have a tutor in my country.. I learned mainly in "Lernu!" The site is great, the language helpers are great and I really like all there. The other two courses that I recommens are the Free Esperanto course and the multilanguage one - the last is supported by UEA. However I have some bad experience with it as my tutor disappeared - but if Englishj is your native, you will not have this trouble

About online learning - depends. I had learned the basics of a few languages online and on a later moment had seen a teacher for clarifications and so on. But compared with Esperanto - yes - Esperanto is really easy to be learned online.

Gxis!
Venabili


 
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Sites Jun 30, 2004

kanajlo wrote:

Sendari and Venabili have found some excellent sites! Thank you both! I will list some more sites later. Lernu Esperanton!


Saluton,

Basically I may post all the sites I have bookmarked if someone wants them. Together with a small review what the site is about. But this will be a really very very long post so I am not sure it will be suitable And not only for Esperanto in fact - Artificial Auxiliary languages are one of my hobies

Venabili


 
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Grammar Jun 30, 2004

The 16 rules of Grammar are really a good resource but sometimes you need a better resource:
http://www.bertilow.com/pmeg/index.html

Unfortunally if you do not speak Esperanto, you almost can't use it but... it is a great reference.


 
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Yes, more links please. Jul 1, 2004

kanajlo wrote:
I will list some more sites later. Lernu Esperanton!


Please do that, kanajlo. Thanks!

[Edited at 2004-07-01 12:25]


 
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Two more courses? Jul 1, 2004

Venabili wrote:
The other two courses that I recommens are the Free Esperanto course and the multilanguage one - the last is supported by UEA.


Hi Venabili,

Which courses do you mean? Are they in one of the websites that have already been mentioned? If not, do you have the links for us?

Thanks for all your contributions and tips. I find it really helpful to have somebody here, like you, who has studied the language not too long ago and who is willing to share his experience.

Dankon, Venabili!

Stefanie


 
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List of links? Jul 1, 2004

Hi again, Venabili,

Definitely, please post your links here. The longer the list, the better, I´d say. What you post here can be accessed later by everybody who is interested in Esperanto.

For the other languages, please post the links as well. But I suggest you start a new forum thread, which is dedicated to other artificial languages. Maybe we should reserve this thread for Esperanto only.

Gxis,
Stefanie

Venabili wrote:
Basically I may post all the sites I have bookmarked if someone wants them. Together with a small review what the site is about. But this will be a really very very long post so I am not sure it will be suitable And not only for Esperanto in fact - Artificial Auxiliary languages are one of my hobies
Venabili


[Edited at 2004-07-01 06:58]


 
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Links Jul 1, 2004

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Hi again, Venabili,

Definitely, please post your links here. The longer the list, the better, I´d say. What you post here can be accessed later by everybody who is interested in Esperanto.

For the other languages, please post the links as well. But I suggest you start a new forum thread, which is dedicated to other artificial languages. Maybe we should reserve this thread for Esperanto only.

Gxis,
Stefanie


OK.. I think I will reorder them, rewrite some of teh explanations and post all of the Esperanto ones here at the beginning of next week...

And I may start a new thread for the others


 
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Courses Jul 1, 2004

sundari wrote:

Venabili wrote:
The other two courses that I recommens are the Free Esperanto course and the multilanguage one - the last is supported by UEA.


Hi Venabili,

Which courses do you mean? Are they in one of the websites that have already been mentioned? If not, do you have the links for us?

Thanks for all your contributions and tips. I find it really helpful to have somebody here, like you, who has studied the language not too long ago and who is willing to share his experience.

Dankon, Venabili!

Stefanie


Yes - I had already posted the links. I was writing about the other two I recommend that are not part of Lernu
I mean these two:
http://www.cursodeesperanto.com.br/bazo/index.html?en - especially if you are not English native - they have tutors in a few more languages. And even if you do not want a tutor - the course is a good one - with a lot of listening exercises

http://pacujo.net/esperanto/course/ - my tutor here is great The course starts easy and is going harder and harder

Basically all the courses I had listed are good ones and I just made all of them. I just give some recommendations based on my experience and what I had found to be most useful. After Lernu

You are welcome.. I prefer to help if I can in such situations By the way - It is 'her' experience in this case

Annie


 
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The Esperanto League for North America (ELNA) Jul 1, 2004

For American beginners, the website for the Esperanto League for North America (ELNA) is a must-see. I am a lifetime member.

http://www.esperanto-usa.org/


 
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Yes... great site Jul 1, 2004

kanajlo wrote:

For American beginners, the website for the Esperanto League for North America (ELNA) is a must-see. I am a lifetime member.

http://www.esperanto-usa.org/[/quote]

Then you are lucky The Bulgarian organizations do not even answer mails recently (well.. they did answer a few mails with 3 weeks delay). I just use American(or other English Speaking Country's) sites and helpers when I have some Esperanto issue. That makes real fun sometimes. Especially when English does not have a given construction (For example his can be translated in Esperanto with lin or sin depends on the context and Bulgarian have exactly the same constuction with exactly the same usage. And I needed maybe a few hours just to realise it - whoever tried to explain was exactly explaining and not saying - it is like in Bulgarian.) So having someone that speaks fluently your language and Esperanto is of great help.

Ny the way ELNA site is a useful site for any beginner with fluent English

 
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Thanks, you guys (and GIRLS) ;-) Jul 1, 2004

You are really great!

I am browsing through all the links, and the links on these sites, and the links on those sites.... give me a week. I'll be back with a full report then.

Sorry for the 'his', Annie. I don't know why I thought you were male.


 
Yoana Yotova
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No probs Jul 1, 2004

sundari wrote:
I am browsing through all the links, and the links on these sites, and the links on those sites.... give me a week. I'll be back with a full report then.


Only a week? Don't you ever sleep? Have fun with the links and Esperanto I hope you wil really like it.

sundari wrote:
Sorry for the 'his', Annie. I don't know why I thought you were male.


It's ok. By the way - Venabili is a character from a novel so if you had not read it, it is highly unlikely to determine the gender. So after the first his, I usually specify this;)


 
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Don Harlow is an eminent American Esperantist. Jul 1, 2004

-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/don/don.html Opinions (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/opinions/ Esperanto (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/esperanto/ Literaturo (Esperante
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-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/don/don.html Opinions (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/opinions/ Esperanto (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/esperanto/ Literaturo (Esperante): http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/Literaturo
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More Esperanto URLs Jul 1, 2004

Sounds of the world's animals in Esperanto
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/animals/esperanto.html

Map of groups of Esperantists all over the world
http://www.esperantoland.org/grupoj/

Archive of some past issues of _El Popola Ĉin
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Sounds of the world's animals in Esperanto
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/animals/esperanto.html

Map of groups of Esperantists all over the world
http://www.esperantoland.org/grupoj/

Archive of some past issues of _El Popola Ĉinio_, the Chinese
E-o magazine (Chinese speakers take note.)
(in English: _From People's China_)
http://www1.china.org.cn/EL/EL/ElPopolaCxinio/
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